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Ken-Guzzibear
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Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 08:52 |
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When one delves into the hysterical records Britain and France have been at war for a very long time. It was only by a technicality we did not join Germany in duffing France in what became WW1.
Had we joined Germany who at that time shared Royal Families and much more. France would have been very quickly overrun WW2 would have been averted, unless of course The USA went with their plan to invade Canada.
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Andy M
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My Grandfather fought the French : Syria 1941.
And before anyone asks, yes he was in the British Army! Did it on horseback too. Andy
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I don't agree with that even if it is Johnny Durex.
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I'm not so sure the Vichy French count as French.
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Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 08:21 |
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So how do you qualify? Eating garlic and anything that moves, not understanding cricket or sewerage , speaking French and being born with a couple of hundred miles of Paris would seem to be a fair assessment? Are Napoleon's boys (Corsican) and the lot that come over in 1066 (Viking spin-off's) also not French?
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Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 08:49 |
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Je ne suis pas Francais...
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In terms of fighting between English forces and Vichy French forces in 1941, they do not qualify as French, they were Nazi stooges. Try asking a French person.
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Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 14:01 |
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For some time I have wished that I was French........
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I'm certain that's how they want to remember it but a large part of France was Vichy and collaborated. Petain personally congratulated Hitler for repulsing the Anglophones at Dieppe. They conveniently forget that as many French as British were rescued at Dunkirk but most refused to join De Gaulle and went home to live under the Germans. At the same time we were sacrificing the 51st Division to try and save those French who were fighting. The first people the Americans fought in WW2 were French in N Africa, that surprised them! My grandfather apparently got 14 days in jail in WW2 for shooting a French Colonel in Syria. Never found out the details on that!!!
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Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 21:05 |
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So if he was fighting the French in Syria, why was he jailed for shooting one? Doesn't add up. |
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Interesting. Do you know what unit he was with? My Grandfather was with the HQ troop of the Yorkshire Hussars. Part of 5 Cavalry Brigade, 1st Cavalry division. To only get 14 days for shooting someone suggests an accident or some element of deserving it. Failing to use a safety catch territory, not shooting a prisoner etc. My Grandfather got 30 days in the Citadel in Cairo (and busted of course) for punching a machine gunner who got over excited during a live fire exercise and hit his section. The film "The Hill" was apparently toned down! Every Frenchman was in the Resistance after August 1944! You wouldn't find a single Nazi in Germany after May '45 either, or any criminals in prison! Andy
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I think we'd stopped fighting them by then and were merely ignoring them! Don't know for sure. Apparently his words were then the Frenchman had a car that he needed . . .
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He was RASC. Actually a protected trade as a bus driver. Went to Leconfield (I believe) to train Army drivers and didn't come home for 5 years. That was the story. True about the French. Some Germans I met were less hypocritical. There was both the fact that joining "the party" was often necessary for employment and certainly promotion and the admission that everyone likes to belong; especially if that means the problems of the past can be lain elsewhere.
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Posted: 30 Nov 2021 at 20:43 |
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I think you would find that sort of thing in every nation, the English being no better. You only have to look at the occupation of the Channel Islands, and the quote from the German head of Police when asked how he found out about clandestine radios. "I open my mail in the morning".
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