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    Posted: 04 Jun 2017 at 18:31
Looking for ideas to safely lift my V7 II for maintenance jobs. I'm looking at these options, anyone had experience or have any other suggestions?

1) Draper scissor lift with platform top:
http://www.drapertools.com/product/04991/450kg-Motorcycle-Scissor-Stand-with-Pad

I reckon I could fix a couple of blocks on the platform 100mm long and about 60mm high to pick up the frame rails and clear the low hanging exhausts, probably with a curved top face on the blocks to stop the bike sliding sideways.

If I spread the load over 100mm of each side rail, that shouldn't hurt should it? I'm thinking just ahead of the footrests, between the exhaust X pipe and lambda sensors.


2) V7 workshop lift from Stein-Dinse:
http://www.stein-dinse.biz/vaerktoj/Montagestaender/Montagestaender-fuer-Moto-Guzzi/Assembly-stand-V7-Cafe-Racer-Serie-I-II::227939.html?language=sc

This is a custom lift that works much like a centre stand would. But it's fixed height and looks like a 2 man job to get the bike onto the stand (bike needs steadying while you push the stand under the frame to lift).


I'm favoring (1) because it could be used on any bike and stores flat. Anybody used one of these platform lifts or similar, on a modern day V7?

Must work out something soon before Mr Plod sees my rear tyre...LOL
Thanks! Pete.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 2017 at 19:10
There are loads of those scissor stands about, most of them hydraulically operated so much easier.
The draper one is cheaper from Machine Mart, and they list a different one which picks up the frame rails. Also in their list for scissor stands is a first aid kit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 2017 at 19:38
The sort of lift is what they call a sears lift ax the pond ...got one you have to tie a bike down and I was never happy with the stability , year or so ago Annie bought me a bench type lift I searched online and found one with a wider and longer bed that takes the 1100 Cali EV 1000kg load too at £295 was well worth it ...
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

 Also in their list for scissor stands is a first aid kit.
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The main problem I can see with any of the scissor (sears) lifts, is how to pick up on a strong flat surface on the bike.  The frame rails are not the lowest part of the bike, hence my thought to use packing blocks.

I've been looking at the hydraulic lifts too, but thought a simple scissor platform might be OK for general light maintenance jobs? I'm planning to strap the bike frame to a roof beam in the garage using a couple of web straps, so it cant topple sideways.

What do others do to lift a V7 without a centre stand?
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I lift all my bikes on scissor lift , can be a tight fit to get under bike on some models .
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I bought this at c.£40. It is most excellent. Note the extra feet to lift on frame rails etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/500KG-Motorcycle-Scissor-Motorbike-Lift-Stand-Bike-Jack-Paddock-Workshop-Tools-/322465820905?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2017 at 15:38
Originally posted by cyclobutch cyclobutch wrote:

I bought this at c.£40. It is most excellent. Note the extra feet to lift on frame rails etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/500KG-Motorcycle-Scissor-Motorbike-Lift-Stand-Bike-Jack-Paddock-Workshop-Tools-/322465820905?
that could work a treat for my slingshot
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Originally posted by cyclobutch cyclobutch wrote:

I bought this at c.£40. It is most excellent. Note the extra feet to lift on frame rails etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/500KG-Motorcycle-Scissor-Motorbike-Lift-Stand-Bike-Jack-Paddock-Workshop-Tools-/322465820905?

That looks pretty handy Steve, I could jack under the side rails or the 'centre stand' cross brace with that.
Then to raise the front wheel I guess I could jack the sump (with the bike tied of course...)

Would you mind doing me a big favour and measure the width of those curved pads? I'm not sure if they'll fit between the side rails and exhaust pipes.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2017 at 22:18
these do work often seen similar at a bike shop on a hyd lift the flat lifts or ones with 2 flat rails I have one I found it not that stable especially with the V sump of the V11 Le Mans mind these are 1000 and 1100 bikes .... not a lot of fun if the bike goes sideways .... ought to be ok with the small block bikes got my sears type lift from Macro some time ago have to say it is very heavy to move about


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyclobutch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 10:27
Sorry, just picking up now. I’ll try and remember to take some measurements this evening. I must admit I mostly use it in conjunction with my lifting table so I’ve usually got a wheel clamped, and when in doubt I have the bike strapped down also. Having a bike tip over takes on a whole new level of magnitude if you end up squarely underneath it (even if it does save the body work).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dennis menace Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 14:43
I use a hydraulically operated flat bed with the bike on the centre stand and the front wheel in the clamp. The bed and bike are very stable and easy to raise and lower. The bed has a rear lift out panel to aid both rear wheel removal and to tie down the rear wheel to lift the front one. The bed takes up a lot of room but fully down and with the ramp fitted I actually store my bike on it between rides so it takes up no more room than the bike. Best thing I ever bought Cost about £300 and is a Seeley clone.
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I bought a hydraulic bike bench around 20 years ago and it's by far the best single bit of kit I ever bought, I once even considered cleaning my wheels...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asaleo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 21:32
I lifted my Guzzi in the back by using a wooden block and a jack. Wooden block was prepared with two small blocks covered with rubber to rest against frame pipes. Safest to lift with a person keeps the bike when you lift with the jack and put supports on both sides.
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I have a hydraulic bench too, in a rather small space, so I raised the floor around the bench so it sits flush when down.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dukedesmo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 22:31
I use my lift bench as a bike parking space when not actually lifting, that way I don't need to move it.

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