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    Posted: 11 Apr 2018 at 19:04
Just changed the oil in my 2015 V7 II and a good 1/2 mug of clear water came out the rear drain plug Shocked

Anyone else noticed this on their bike?

I assume it's moisture from the warm breathers condensing in the cold airbox, draining back to the sump via the oil return pipe (or water/oil return pipe in my case).
Seems odd the water was so clear and only came out the rear drain, as if there's some sort of oil/water separator inside the sump?


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Yes happened to me, I even took a sample back to the dealer who did the previous service thinking their engine oil storage was at fault. But it happened again after I had serviced my V711, the water only drains from the rear plug because that is the lowest and water is heavier than engine oil. I sometimes allow a dribble from the rear plug mid service mileage. Steve.
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Don't forget it has been a very damp winter. High humidity in the atmosphere will only make this problem worse.
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A classic problem of the oil simply not getting hot enough.  The solution is actually very simple - relocate to the South of France, Australia or somewhere else warm and dry!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote motopete Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 18:51
I think the occasional dribble from the sump is a good idea Steve, I'll start doing that between services.

BTW, I'd love to live somewhere much warmer!


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Originally posted by motopete motopete wrote:

I think the occasional dribble from the sump is a good idea Steve, I'll start doing that between services.

BTW, I'd love to live somewhere much warmer!


Steve very good idea Thanks
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 19:55
I can remember changing the primary drive oil in my Triumph T140 every Saturday in Winter time Shocked

Always drained out looking exactly like evaporated milk...


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Not sure if this applies wherever you live,but I dont ride pretty much all winter.If I run the bike during storage and dont run it hot enough I get condensation in the oil.
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Checked the V7 this morning. Nothing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote motopete Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 20:06
Originally posted by stokes1971 stokes1971 wrote:

Not sure if this applies wherever you live,but I dont ride pretty much all winter.If I run the bike during storage and dont run it hot enough I get condensation in the oil.

I've not run it all winter, just maintained the battery. The weather was pretty cold when I last rode the bike in November so maybe the oil just doesn't get hot enough in cold weather?
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Originally posted by oldlegs oldlegs wrote:

Yes happened to me, I even took a sample back to the dealer who did the previous service thinking their engine oil storage was at fault. But it happened again after I had serviced my V711, the water only drains from the rear plug because that is the lowest and water is heavier than engine oil. I sometimes allow a dribble from the rear plug mid service mileage. Steve.

Do you do short journeys and are light on the throttle ?
not had the problem with my breva ( similar engine) but I only do long runs and work it hard
odd really as an air cooled machine should warm up quicker
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote motopete Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 13:00
I never do short journeys, that's what the pushbike's for Wink 

I wouldn't say I ride it hard, but I don't potter either. My run to work is 15 miles, and trips out tend to be much longer, but I remember the air temp gauge displaying 2degC near the end of last year; if  that doesn't over-cool the engine at 60mph it certainly over-cools the rider!  Brrrr...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 17:54
Pete you ride your bike sound , distance and speed wise these small blocks can collect water , my 750 as a few times , your problem is you had a few months of being a wimp and not riding lolThumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote V7Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 18:46
Bugger it! I was trying to ignore this thread. I will have to go and check mine now - I was in blissful ignorance before. I do make sure I go out and put a few miles on no matter what the weather at least every week or two except when I am overseas. On the other hand, it is due an annual service next month, reckon I should be safe enough till then?
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Hi Chris, it only takes a few minutes to allow a dribble from the rear plug, it's win win, if no water comes out it makes you feel good, if you get rid of any water in the sump you've got rid of the worry. Steve.
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