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Originally posted by kateguy kateguy wrote:

Oddly enough....and despite unreliability issues....I think new Nortons bought secondhand at the right price....may come to be reasonable investments....judging by the reaction my mate Erica got with hers at the Big Brekkie yesterday....mind you....shes rather lovely too !
Hers is in the Manx colours.....the one to have.....
  thats the one i want ,its only a 12 week wait for it to be built . I was so impressed with the visit to Norton factory ( workshop) Thumbs Up 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hughguzzi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2018 at 19:57
Got to say my money would go on a late 1970's / early 1980's bevel drive Ducati 900ss black and gold or a Vincent Rapide series C if possible for that money - not just because they are handsome machines but have heritige, collectability , rideability and dont think they will ever lose value. Thumbs Up

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kateguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2018 at 19:39
Have a like for that...
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Well here is an update.  I had some offers of some wonderful machinery, for which I am very very grateful. It made for some waking up at night and research over tea!

Some advice that I kept on getting was-

Buy what you love, if it goes up in value that’s a bonus
Buy a bike made in limited numbers 
Buy original as possible

Also from a couple of different sources in the trade-
Le Mans/Jota etc, bikes of that era appeal to persons of that era, ie a shrinking customer pool when you come to sell in years to come.

So this is what I bought..
A 2001 Ducati 996 R. The R is very important!or so I found! It’s one of the most sought after modern Ducatis and in my humble opinion, one of the prettiest (not including the 750/900ss). It’s totally original, a homogolation machine with a limited run of 500 and as a bonus it was nowhere near the money being asked on fleabay.




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1976 "Zagato" Gootsi cafe racer
1980 LM 2, Coburn and Hughes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cugsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2018 at 17:36
I read that the first GSXR1100 slabby went for sale at Bonhams..? for a million squid. Would I? Maybe...would I ride it? You betchaEvil Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Glawster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2018 at 18:45
Good luck with that.  4 years ago I bought a 996 Biposto as they are at the bottom of the value curve.  After four months and with a slipped disc I had to admit my days of adapting to such a riding position are long gone!  I would like to have kept it, but I don't have the luxury of enough space to keep bikes I can't ride.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2018 at 19:08
Just looking at it would bring my bad back on.
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That is a beautiful machine.Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oldrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2018 at 20:15
Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

Just looking at it would bring my bad back on.

Good job that I’m not as old as your good self Wink
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Originally posted by Glawster Glawster wrote:

Good luck with that.  4 years ago I bought a 996 Biposto as they are at the bottom of the value curve.  After four months and with a slipped disc I had to admit my days of adapting to such a riding position are long gone!  I would like to have kept it, but I don't have the luxury of enough space to keep bikes I can't ride.

It’s going to be sat in me lounge and I’ll be in the comfortable fireside chair opposite it looking at it lovingly Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote BondEquipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2018 at 22:19
Lovely looking bike & I do like the wheels especially but I'm with the guys above.  I rode one in 2001 and even at that young (!) age could only manage 400yds on the road before it cricked my neck worse than any bike I've been on!  There's a reason they have low mileage!!
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Originally posted by BondEquipe BondEquipe wrote:

Lovely looking bike & I do like the wheels especially but I'm with the guys above.  I rode one in 2001 and even at that young (!) age could only manage 400yds on the road before it cricked my neck worse than any bike I've been on!  There's a reason they have low mileage!!


Ah, but I’m a 4’8” superhero with a core just like iron Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2018 at 22:35
Are you a member of BUPA? LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oldrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2018 at 06:14
ha ha
Good thought, might need their Chiropractors 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyclobutch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2018 at 09:40

I’m not entirely convinced that buying ‘classic’ vehicles for longer term investment is such a good idea. I’m figuring that those values will only remain high as long as petrol continues to be served at service stations common enough to be in tank range, and that some other (presumably emissions) regulations hasn’t done for them. And I’m not sure we’ll not be reaching some tipping point before too long.

For sure, you would expect museum grade rarities to always be worth money. But your non matching numbers, slightly scruffy and used and enjoyed (say) Vincent, might not hold up once it’s usability has been compromised by the above.

Tell me I’m wrong – I’ve no desire to outlive the IC engine.

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