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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote V7Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 22:00
So much for the low seat height that was mentioned n some pre-blurb then. I wouldn't call 32.7 inches low.Disapprove
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

2019 Moto Guzzi V85 TT Specifications

Dry weight 459 pounds (claimed)
Curb weight 505 pounds (claimed)art

That's a porker
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 07:38
This "all new" engine is Euro IV complient. Still has two valves per cylinder and single throttle body.

It does make you wonder why the 1200 engine could not have been worked on in a similar way.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 12:45
Originally posted by V7Chris V7Chris wrote:

So much for the low seat height that was mentioned n some pre-blurb then. I wouldn't call 32.7 inches low.Disapprove


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TooJuicy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 14:39
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

It does make you wonder why the 1200 engine could not have been worked on in a similar way.

Doubtless the 1200 could have been made Euro4 compliant, after all the 1400 derivative engine is now Euro4.

It has to be a marketing decision - Guzzi threw in the towel on competing with the R series BMW & appears to be hanging its hat on the smaller & newer engine while keeping the door ajar for bike engines with the California Touring.

As a fan of big torquey engines I find this disappointing. When/if I tire of my 1200 Sport I expect that my next bike will be decked with chrome and be made in Wisconsin  Embarrassed

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Originally posted by TooJuicy TooJuicy wrote:

... and be made in Wisconsin 


Well, assembled in Wisconsin, at least.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BobV7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 15:37
And built in India perhaps?

MG are the worthy successors to Moto Morini when it comes to parts bin specials and I expect that's exactly how Piaggio want to keep it.


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2019 V85: 48 MPG (claimed)
1979 T3: 46 MPG (actual)

What is this Euro 4 fuel efficiency baloney ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote motopete Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 19:08
I wonder how close to 'real life riding' the test cycle is?  48MPG is a bit off putting when the V7 easily does 60MPG (in real life). I thought the new head design was supposed to be more efficient...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 19:09
Yeah but, T3 won't pass Euro 4 LOL

This is interesting:




Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Fuel tank capacity 5.5 gallons (including 1.3-gallon reserve)

American or English gallons?

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Dry weight 459 pounds (claimed)
Curb weight 505 pounds (claimed)art

Bluddy hell .. Wacko

And this is an "adventure bike" ?


I'm a 29"-insider as well so yeah 32.--" seat is a bit much too.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 19:43
Weight is in pounds, so I guess it's those puny US Gallons. Wink
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Originally posted by motopete motopete wrote:

I wonder how close to 'real life riding' the test cycle is?  48MPG is a bit off putting when the V7 easily does 60MPG (in real life). I thought the new head design was supposed to be more efficient...

In reality how may aircooled engines are still being manufactured?   Cars are all on Euro 6 now and water cooled for decades , the favourite small capacity being  a 3 cyl  1.2l with turbocharger.  
I guess clean emissions and good fuel consumption don't always go hand in hand . ( I think that came up in the (mainly) VW dieselgate scandal.
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Originally posted by Mike H Mike H wrote:

Yeah but, T3 won't pass Euro 4 LOL

This is interesting:



It is interesting, but sounds like a whole industry of concocting unrealistic test cycles to end up with a bike that's a pain to ride, and its owner then cutting out various sensors and installing different "chips" to get it to work properly, thereby defeating the whole exercise.
You'd think that when that "post-production tuning" is done with, that bike wouldn't pass Euro 4 either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 21:47
Originally posted by motopete motopete wrote:

I wonder how close to 'real life riding' the test cycle is?  48MPG is a bit off putting when the V7 easily does 60MPG (in real life). I thought the new head design was supposed to be more efficient...
That would be 48 miles per US gallon.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 21:49
Originally posted by nab301 nab301 wrote:

the favourite small capacity being  a 3 cyl  1.2l with turbocharger.  
I guess clean emissions and good fuel consumption don't always go hand in hand .

Actually the PSA 1.2 three cylinder puretech engine is quite frugal.
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