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    Posted: 06 Aug 2018 at 17:56
Took the Cali 1400 in for it's 24000 mile service, tyres, and replacement of faulty abs sensor. Teasdale m/c have loaned me a 2018 reg 2000 mile V7. Mk3 Stone. Interesting, to me anyway, to compare it with the 2010 V7C i have at home.
I was surprised to find it feels a fair bit more pokey throughout the rev range. Initially I put that down to lower and closer ratios in the 6 speed box, as opposed to my 5 speeder. But it holds a higher speed in 6th going up hill than my Classic in 5th. Overtakes are easier too. The suspension is more compliant than the Classic...still not perfect over big bumps, but generally more comfortable over ripples and overbanding.
Overall, I'm pretty impressed.
Negatives for me...No tacho, so there's a red light that flashes annoyingly with a panel message to " change up." Seems a bit too eager to come on. The T/C cuts in early, as will the ABS. The Classic doesn't have those. My Cali does, and isn't so intrusive on that and can be dialled out or off.

So, in my opinion, the Mk3 has a lot going for it. Though I'd choose a gloss paint scheme over the matt Stone. Does more mpg too, indicating 72. The Classic over the same route would work out (on my fingers, no computer on the Classic) at 62mpg. 

Rekindled my interest in new small block Guzzis. I will try the V85 soon as it becomes available...will be ready for a new bike in a years time.Thumbs Up

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every bike I’ve had  i’ve painted it black.  Nothing to do with the Rolling Stones  just lifelong Rat bike rider.
T.C ABS has 3 settings off/1/2
 Red light Defo annoying.  Does not sound like it’ready to change Up.  A better exhaust And re-map maybe?
  Did you find  The rear suspension a bit harsh?
 I think I’m a bit short For a V85. I predict And wish next guzzi
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Originally posted by Graeme Graeme wrote:

 Red light Defo annoying.  Does not sound like it’ready to change Up.  A better exhaust And re-map maybe?
  Did you find  The rear suspension a bit harsh?
 I think I’m a bit short For a V85. I predict And wish next guzzi
V7 with bobber/rome/V85  Engine  Upsidedown forks and piggyback rear,s

Yeah, did find rear shocks a little harsh though better than the Classic. Not as bad as some of the comments on this forum, but of course that's down to each individual's 'feel thru the pants' , set up, body weight, and tolerance to discomfort. I'd be able to live with it, just look forward more, anticipate the bumps/holes/berms/small children, brace the legs and ride over without jolting spine. 
Also, despite much critisism of the fuelling, I couldn't fault it. Smooth seamless response, no spluttering, popping, stalling. My V7C has always been good too...though that could do with stronger return springs to suit me.
As for Piaggio building the bike of our dreams...doubt they'll put up the money to develop the range of frames, engines, gears, brakes etc, that have been much discussed on forums. Nice if they could, just not likely. Mind, no manufacturers, European or Japanese, have yet built "my" bike. It's all compromise and make do. At least Guzzis have some sort of character or soul to make up for some of the shortfalls.
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There is a difference between the V7ii and the V7iii. The fuelling on the mkii  is the problem and had been much criticised, I haven't heard anyone (yet) criticise the mkiii in that respect. Mkiii special has gloss paint and a tacho, unfortunately also still has the nanny nag change up indicator.
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V7lll stoe is exactly  what I want in a motorbike.
 Just a few tweaks to make it mine.
 A proper front mudguard and  Centre stand.
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