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    Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 08:35
Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

Just looking at it would bring my bad back on.
 
My back's ok, it's my front I worry about!
 
 
 
Beautiful machine, would have one in a minute, I'm glad you bought what 'you' wanted and to do with it what you will, when and how often you want to Clap.
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Originally posted by Oldrat Oldrat wrote:

Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

Just looking at it would bring my bad back on.

Good job that I’m not as old as your good self Wink


It's not age but a bad back.

I looked at one of these but my back said no.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oldrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2018 at 10:26
I think that you do have a point there Butch. One which I have thought long and hard about. There will be a watershed when we tip over to the majority of vehicles will use alternative fuels.


Then there will be a massive surplus of IC engines vehicles and without doubt their values will be rock bottom.

I also agree that genuine classics will always have value, just how much remains to be seen.

Other thoughts were about watching that cash sitting in a account not doing very well against the rages of inflation 
and perhaps controversially, so shhhh!!! ...
To a minor degree, the (taking a ) chance of being able to pass on said vehicles in a manner which will not attract the inheritance tax bogey man. IMHO inheritance tax is so unfair. Taxes when you earn it, when you save it, when you spend it, when you insure, when you drive, when you fly the bastid of all when you die.

Yes I am well aware of the legal obligations and how to do probate etc. But the truth is, an old motorbike is easier to squirrel away and attract less attention than money.





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I’m not entirely convinced that buying ‘classic’ vehicles for longer term investment is such a good idea. I’m figuring that those values will only remain high as long as petrol continues to be served at service stations common enough to be in tank range, and that some other (presumably emissions) regulations hasn’t done for them. And I’m not sure we’ll not be reaching some tipping point before too long.

For sure, you would expect museum grade rarities to always be worth money. But your non matching numbers, slightly scruffy and used and enjoyed (say) Vincent, might not hold up once it’s usability has been compromised by the above.

Tell me I’m wrong – I’ve no desire to outlive the IC engine.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oldrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2018 at 06:14
ha ha
Good thought, might need their Chiropractors 
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Are you a member of BUPA? LOL
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Originally posted by BondEquipe BondEquipe wrote:

Lovely looking bike & I do like the wheels especially but I'm with the guys above.  I rode one in 2001 and even at that young (!) age could only manage 400yds on the road before it cricked my neck worse than any bike I've been on!  There's a reason they have low mileage!!


Ah, but I’m a 4’8” superhero with a core just like iron Wink
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Lovely looking bike & I do like the wheels especially but I'm with the guys above.  I rode one in 2001 and even at that young (!) age could only manage 400yds on the road before it cricked my neck worse than any bike I've been on!  There's a reason they have low mileage!!
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Originally posted by Glawster Glawster wrote:

Good luck with that.  4 years ago I bought a 996 Biposto as they are at the bottom of the value curve.  After four months and with a slipped disc I had to admit my days of adapting to such a riding position are long gone!  I would like to have kept it, but I don't have the luxury of enough space to keep bikes I can't ride.

It’s going to be sat in me lounge and I’ll be in the comfortable fireside chair opposite it looking at it lovingly Wink
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Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

Just looking at it would bring my bad back on.

Good job that I’m not as old as your good self Wink
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That is a beautiful machine.Clap
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Just looking at it would bring my bad back on.
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Good luck with that.  4 years ago I bought a 996 Biposto as they are at the bottom of the value curve.  After four months and with a slipped disc I had to admit my days of adapting to such a riding position are long gone!  I would like to have kept it, but I don't have the luxury of enough space to keep bikes I can't ride.
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I read that the first GSXR1100 slabby went for sale at Bonhams..? for a million squid. Would I? Maybe...would I ride it? You betchaEvil Smile
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Well here is an update.  I had some offers of some wonderful machinery, for which I am very very grateful. It made for some waking up at night and research over tea!

Some advice that I kept on getting was-

Buy what you love, if it goes up in value that’s a bonus
Buy a bike made in limited numbers 
Buy original as possible

Also from a couple of different sources in the trade-
Le Mans/Jota etc, bikes of that era appeal to persons of that era, ie a shrinking customer pool when you come to sell in years to come.

So this is what I bought..
A 2001 Ducati 996 R. The R is very important!or so I found! It’s one of the most sought after modern Ducatis and in my humble opinion, one of the prettiest (not including the 750/900ss). It’s totally original, a homogolation machine with a limited run of 500 and as a bonus it was nowhere near the money being asked on fleabay.




Edited by Oldrat - 30 May 2018 at 17:14
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