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I notice that you are in Belgium
I also had assistance from strangers there
I want to go back again, everybody is so nice
My Grandfather always loved Belgium as well, one red headed lass in particular

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Vive la France. I got more offers of help in 2 hours in France than a year in the UK. Back to Dover and they just try to kill you anyway. Ho hum
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Reading this thread has made me smile, because of two things:

1) The humanity of Auguste and I have to say the younger generation is generally very nice, pleasant and source of optimism for the future!

2) I used to be a BMW driver who more than once got out of the car in threatening manner. I was that dickhead too. The trouble is stress at that time i was in my thirties running a small business and without the maturity to handle it all. I was under stress and the driving environment would always give me a reason to boil over. One day a guy pulled out in front of me, bearing in mind I was probably speeding so his manoeuvre was appropriate, but my speed was not. I forced my way past him got out full of anger and got to his window to be met by a very calm comment of “are you okay? Whatever’s making you so angry will end in a heart attack, you need to calm down” he was so genuinely concerned about me as a person and able to see past the ranting asshole in front of him that I just mumbled an apology and got back in my car and had a moment of reflection. I was embarrassed by the person I was becoming. I have never got out of my car since. 

I got out of the business in 2008 a few years later and whilst I still hold a senior position in a major business I am much more conscious of how stress almost always vents in the wrong direction. Young people in stressful jobs and powerful cars is a bad combination. These days I live in Switzerland and I never see road rage. There are idiots on the road for sure, but no one seems to react or take offence! Even the driving is neutral!! 
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I concur
I shall be in France for the remembrance weekend with my elderly father, although he prefers the car rather than 2 wheels at this time of the year !!

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I don'r know about other European countries, but France does have it's Good Samaritan laws.
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Those laws are geared to repress non-assistance to persons in peril and protect rescuers from lawsuits.

You can't regulate acts of kindness, I suppose they're a form of anarchySmile
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Then we need more Anarchy in the UK. Back to 1976! 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 11:07
Originally posted by jpc jpc wrote:

Those laws are geared to repress non-assistance to persons in peril and protect rescuers from lawsuits.

Yes, I agree, but it does promote helping others in need. We have nothing like that in the UK.
I remember when when a certain British Royal was killed in an accident in Paris, there was talk of prosecuting the press photographers who failed to assist.
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A couple of days ago I was out on the Cali returning home after a spin. Came to an unregulated single lane bridge and saw a white Audi approach from the oncoming direction. It had those Zenon or HID bulbs on in broad daylight, and I formed an immediate opinion of the driver. As I was nearest the bridge I had notional right of way, I started to cross it. Audi picked up speed and kept coming. Just about cleared the bridge, having to execute a violent shimmy to the left to avoid contact with the car. Felt like I had shaved the stone bridge wall to my left.

Had murderous thoughts of going back after the car and driver.

Reflecting later, I realised that the warning signs were there, that driver was not going to back-off, and that I had contributed to the situation. If I hadnt had reasonable riding skills, I would have been in an A and E unit in hospital. I also know that the Police would judge it to be a 50/50 blame incident. Busted bike, busted me... no winners.

Read this topic/thread. Cause for reflection about my own actions and judgements.


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That's where one of these might help.

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I once decided not to overtake two cyclists (in the car) because I could see a tractor about to pull out of a farm entrance on the right and turn toward me. Instead the car behind overtook me managing to just miss the tractor but hit both cyclists. The driver in his 60s was so angry I thought he would have a heart attack. While I and others attended to the cyclists he kept ranting that it was my fault for slowing down and making him overtake. Happily the police and courts took a different view.

Back then in the 90s it was Volvo drivers who were (often correctly) vilified.
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I often drive along the Bristol Road in Birmingham to and from the new QE hospital.

The number of times I've seen a distant ambulance's blue lights in the car mirror and pulled over to give it room only to have the car behind overtake me, driver gesticulating wildly, then stopping to block the ambulance beggars belief.
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Originally posted by jog53 jog53 wrote:

A couple of days ago I was out on the Cali returning home after a spin. Came to an unregulated single lane bridge and saw a white Audi approach from the oncoming direction. It had those Zenon or HID bulbs on in broad daylight, and I formed an immediate opinion of the driver. As I was nearest the bridge I had notional right of way, I started to cross it. Audi picked up speed and kept coming. Just about cleared the bridge, having to execute a violent shimmy to the left to avoid contact with the car. Felt like I had shaved the stone bridge wall to my left.

Had murderous thoughts of going back after the car and driver.

Reflecting later, I realised that the warning signs were there, that driver was not going to back-off, and that I had contributed to the situation. If I hadnt had reasonable riding skills, I would have been in an A and E unit in hospital. I also know that the Police would judge it to be a 50/50 blame incident. Busted bike, busted me... no winners.

Read this topic/thread. Cause for reflection about my own actions and judgements.
Agreed!

I did a lot of my learner driving in West Germany (as was) and there used to be a saying there that "the graveyards are full of drivers that were in the right"

It sometimes comes to mind too late after I could have done more to avoid the problem


Edited by Tris - 30 Oct 2018 at 15:17
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