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    Posted: 24 Oct 2022 at 10:13
Not sure if this is the right forum but I'm thinking about downsizing to a V85TT Travel. It looks a great bike and has some good reviews, I am but wondering if i'll be disappointed with performance?

I had a Norge some time ago and currently have a 1200 sport (2V) and an Aprilia Caponord 1200 Rally.

I haven't had a test ride yet but I have sat on a couple of bikes and it does seem a tad on the small side for my 6'4" frame.

While I love the 1200 sport, it's not an 'all day' ride bike whereas the Capo is. It's a great bike, but it doesn't have the 'Guzzi' character so I'd be looking to swap it out but wondering if the V85TT Travel is the right bike or should I be considering something else. Looking for any input or feedback from previous / current owners.
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Hi I moved from a 1200 sport (2V) to a V85TT a couple of years ago, The Sport was a bit heavy and becoming more uncomfortable for long trips. The V85 is lower in power for sure but once you become tuned in to it it is fine. Its a lot more comfortable particularly in legroom, I am 6 ft 2in and the ergonomics work well for me. For the roads that I usually ride it is as quick as the sport as the suspension is more compliant and braking is good and progressive. good for 400 +mile days.
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Hi Borderer, thank you for the feedback which is reassuring to know, especially on the power issue. I really like my 1200 sport so I would probably keep it for shorter run outs fro the time being. Sounds like i need to get a test ride organised to check out the smiles per mile!
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I have had the 22 travel for 6 months and put 7000 miles on it, brilliant bike and plenty fast enough, handling and braking is very good but if I was buying again I probably wouldn’t buy the travel. The screen is hopeless no matter what I tried so put a standard one on. The tyre pressure monitor is a hassle nobody needs in my opinion. The panniers are ok but you can get better for the money. My wife bought a standard v85 at the same time and had heated grips added and a centrestand as well as panniers. Brilliant bikes but might have done it differently, I’d still buy a v85 but maybe see what extras are available.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GuzziLancs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 10:45
Thanks Gino, that's interesting. I was thinking of the Travel because of the taller screen and panniers etc that I would need and I thought to add them wouldn't be cost effective. Certainly going for the standard model gives more choice of the nearly new bikes available but I would have to source suitable after market panniers and screen etc that don't cost the earth.
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My wife uses shad tr40 adventure panniers, seem to work well.
I had to change a rear tyre today, the tyre pressure sensor is about the size of a fag packet lurking on the inside of the rim, a definite hazard for dealers to wreck it, I will be trying to figure out how to disconnect it before I come to change the tyre again. 
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Funnily enough I was looking at the SHAD system yesterday which looks quite good and is roughly about £1000 for panniers and brackets but are they any better than the OEM units? My daughter's mini has TPS fitted and it's a bit of a PITA. personally I'd sooner just check it manually every week as I do with all my bikes and cars.
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IMHO tpm systems cause more problems than they are worth. They are not sophisticated enough to avoid false positives, plus I know several people who’ve had in tyre sensors ruined by tyre fitters. No need for them.
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Originally posted by Speciality Speciality wrote:

IMHO tpm systems cause more problems than they are worth. They are not sophisticated enough to avoid false positives, plus I know several people who’ve had in tyre sensors ruined by tyre fitters. No need for them.

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We've had universal fit to cars since 2009, trucks from last year and trailers from 2024. It's coming to bikes. You get no hassle if competent. The sensor is opposite the valve, so just break the bead at a different point. Millions of tyres have been changed since the sensors arrived.

If you really want to remove a safety system (queue "I don't need no stinking safety, I've been running with scissors for 97 years and have only stabbed myself eight times"). It's going to be unpredictable on a bike. Start by putting a sensor in your car boot. An ECE system should bring the light on and refuse to reset for the missing sensor, but removal is easier. Next, try pressing reset with the sensor out of the tyre. This should also fail, zero is a low pressure. If it does reset, you need to find a spot where it can still read the signal (same radio frequency as central locking), try under the seat. If it does meet ECE you can only removing it by reconfiguring the dash so the whole function is gone.

The light on shouldn't currently be an MOT fail on a bike, but it's coming and testers love the(incorrect) mantra "If It's fitted it gotta work mite".

I'd leave it alone.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 18:43
Can you not tell if you have a soft tyre without a monitor to alert you?

There are many things fitted to modern cars, doesn't mean they are needed.
Infotainment systems are "essential" I hear, yet all they do is take your mind and eye off the road ahead. Got to have your mobile phone replicated on the car screen, why? Can you not be without it for an hour or two at most?

But supplying new sensors for the tyres will be a good money spinner.
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Of course TPM is only relevant to modern machines with pnumatic tyres…..
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Can you not tell if you have a soft tyre without a monitor to alert you?


I usually find wobbling about the road is a good clue. Big smile

Can't remember ever having a slow puncture, most often tended to be quick and dramatic.

However, did you know you could be fined £2,500 and 3 points on your licence for under or over inflated tyres? That's for each tyre. So if you got a car and you try really hard enough, that's £10,000 and 12 points if they're all wrong. Source: RAC. Ouch



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Originally posted by GuzziLancs GuzziLancs wrote:

My daughter's mini has TPS fitted and it's a bit of a PITA. personally I'd sooner just check it manually every week as I do with all my bikes and cars.

The Mini will be fitted with `runflat` tyres and so must have the puncture warning system to meet the regs.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 20:41
And it depends on the type of TPM.
These ones are individual and measure the pressure in each tyre.
But many work on the ABS sensors, a tyre with low pressure will rotate faster so you get a warning.
It's the get out clause for idiots who never think of actually checking their tyres.
Read a case recently on a car forum. Guy was complaining bitterly that his 2 year old car needed 4 new tyres because they had been damaged by running flat, he thought the manufacturer's warranty should cough up.
With the ABS TPM system if all tyres lose pressure at the same rate, no warning will be given. But an owner who does nothing unless he gets a warning, is in trouble.
So is it really a benefit when drivers get to rely on the system and never bother to actually check for themselves.
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