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    Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 19:58
OK, long story short. Got a mate at work been bugging his missus to let him have a bike for 2 years. she caved in and gave him a £1000 limit. Fair enough I said - 600 bandit. Now, i'm not expecting a brough for the price of a C90 but the way some bikes are advertised mean that what you end up viewing might as well be a C90...without mot or wheels. 
 We've been to see 2 bandits for the £7-800 mark. One with a badly worn and blowing exhaust,leaky carbs no back brake etc. The other one had been 'streetfightered' and was utterly shoite!  Dangerous even.
  He knows from my experience with the cali to budget a couple of hundred ( if only...) for some work and a good service. The last thing he rode was 20 years ago and was an MZ250 in warsaw.  So, I've seen a BMW F650 for £900 and i know the seller. He told me what needs fettling and its not a lot. So, with any luck the daft bugger will get himself on a nice 650 single trailie. Just in time for the rainy season!

But, dear god - there's some tat badly described out there.  John
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Yes, also the words first to see will buy
I have been looking at a facebook motorcycle selling page
all overpriced
some of the heaps dont even go, but they assure will pass an mot
I also check the MOT history of any machine I am looking to buy, that tells you a lot about the owner
a friend wanted a cali
saw one advertised glowing praise
but the mot history and advisories revealed the owner was s cretin who tinkers with motorcycles and has no idea, we ended up getting a bike through a local dealer who knew the history
worth checking smaller dealers, they often have trade ins

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Other side of the coin. I sold my commute of 11 years GPX 600r  47000 with fresh mot, and the headers I had contacting me .... At least back in the day when the ad was in the paper and landline was the only means, the folk that called were motorcyclists. I posted at 675, was looking 600 and in the end let it go for 550 and it morphed into a new living room carpet.LOL
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Can't imagine you'd get much decent for a grand except perhaps one of the cheap clone 125's but I suppose it all depends how desperately you need to get some transport.

In the past I have sold on Ebay and the experience can be quite interesting. The worst is to set a "come and buy me" price in the hope of generating a lot of bids. That went quite badly wrong for me and I just about gave the bike away.Cry The other thing is the somewhat confusing responses you can get so it's hard to work out if it's genuine interest or just someone writing a critique of your copy writing skills!
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Some of them are mentally challenged
I am dealing with one at the moment
but perhaps it is my duty in life to suffer them in exchange for sins committed by my ancestors
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In my experience, most of the 'mentally challenged' ones turn out to be time wasters
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There is a Kawasakie ER5 advertised not far from me 26K 750 quid, even if it needs tyres and  aservice that budget motoring
they are an excellent underrated motorcycle
I got one for a friend a few years back, elderly owner giving up, hes been all over Europe on it, while the owners of GS and bi touring bikes do a weekly ride out for a burger !!!
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Originally posted by rapheal rapheal wrote:

while the owners of GS and bi touring bikes do a weekly ride out for a burger !!!



How true and their "Adventure Bikes" are decked out with every conceivable extra from the Touratwat catalogue which they keep in their aluminium dustbin panniers and top box.

Often when you get a look at these they are a few years old with 3 or 4 thousand miles on them which says it all.

That said, when I've been abroad I have actually spoken to some guy's with them who have ridden the wheels off them , covering some big mileages but overall I think it's a fashion statement for some.


As the lad in the shed often say's "I've been further in a Furkin skid".


His 13 plate Triumph Trophy which he bought new now has well over 60k on it


The ER5 is a cracking all rounder.
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 "I've been further in a Furkin skid". 😂
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It may be possible to pick up a low mileage bargin but I have a mate who has a habit of buying cheap cars and bikes. He's not stupid but tends to be lead by the number of pound notes and not necessarily any mechanical expertise. He bought a Yamaha 600 Fazer a few years ago for a not unreasonable price for a bike in good working order. It had a few issues but he thought it wouldn't need fixing for a year or so. Then the back brake stopped working and he couldn't get an MOT.

The rear brake disc was knackered 'cos the pads were down to the metal, and the caliper wouldn't come off until the split brake pipe was removed and the wheel taken out. Fortunately the caliper comes in two halves. Both pistons were seized as were both bleed nipples. One try proved getting the disc off was a job for the local friendly bike shop with a rattle gun and a supply of new bolts.

The point of all this is, the bike may have been cheap to buy in the first place but the mounting cost of replacement parts plus the time it took to fix meant it wasn't.Cry
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Originally posted by BobV7 BobV7 wrote:

It may be possible to pick up a low mileage bargin but I have a mate who has a habit of buying cheap cars and bikes. He's not stupid but tends to be lead by the number of pound notes and not necessarily any mechanical expertise. He bought a Yamaha 600 Fazer a few years ago for a not unreasonable price for a bike in good working order. It had a few issues but he thought it wouldn't need fixing for a year or so. Then the back brake stopped working and he couldn't get an MOT.

The rear brake disc was knackered 'cos the pads were down to the metal, and the caliper wouldn't come off until the split brake pipe was removed and the wheel taken out. Fortunately the caliper comes in two halves. Both pistons were seized as were both bleed nipples. One try proved getting the disc off was a job for the local friendly bike shop with a rattle gun and a supply of new bolts.

The point of all this is, the bike may have been cheap to buy in the first place but the mounting cost of replacement parts plus the time it took to fix meant it wasn't.Cry
Yes seen it myself a few times, but motorcycles are like cars, if you avoid the ones that billy big bollocks wants to be seen on, and find a small commuter type machine they are less likely to have been owned by a retard, the sort that spend all their time sticking LED junk on, sliders and noisy pipes
I think I have purchased about 6 ER5s now never been disappointing, all have gone to friends who wanted something bigger and more powerful, then realised it does every thing you need

10 years ago a close mate needed to spend time away, injury at work and some mental issues
he fancied a motorbike trip and to visit a few 2nd world war sites, plus some relatives in Europe
after I narrowed the field down a bit, we settled on a Honda Benly, 300 quid, not been used for a few years, I fitted a new battery and two tyres and tubes, and popped it down to the Honda dealer for a service and check-over, then a windscreen from M and P some secondhand panniers and frames and a bit of welding and bending and a secondhand tank bag, plus some budget riding gear, and camping kit saw him on the road for under a grand ( just) all in
he spent 4 months wandering about Europe, and having  a great time avoided motorways and rode at an average speed of 50 mph and got 90 mpg whats not to like
he also dropped it  a few times, but the crashbars saved it, and was not worried about riding across fields, was never robbed or attacked as he just looked like an old geezer going to work
had a grand old time
got wet, got sunburnt, but best of all found that the small bike allowed him to explore places, and riding at that speed you noticed things that the faster boys didnt, The Honda was sold after his trip to a young couple who wanted to tour europe on a budget ( and did) and he upgraded to a more powerful motorcycle, an ER5 
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Well, Seb is picking up a bmw F650 (N reg) with 47k on it next week. The carbs are the only issue and they'll be sorted. For less than a grand.  If he doesn't like it I said I'll buy it...Evil Smile  I despatched on one for a couple of years and it was dead reliable..slow but reliable
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a nice machine
good spares availability through places like motorworks
and replacement bits from breakers like sherlocks

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Remember doing John O’groats in 2 days, from Nottingham in the rainy season, approx 550 miles to be greeted in the Costa Fortune coffee shop at JOG by two fully kitted up GS riders.
Both had gone through the accesories catalogue and bought the full works for their weeekend chariots, as well as the clothing to match!
Asked them where they had come from, Wick, a full 15 miles away!
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LOLLOLLOL
Originally posted by Alan Sbj Alan Sbj wrote:

Remember doing John O’groats in 2 days, from Nottingham in the rainy season, approx 550 miles to be greeted in the Costa Fortune coffee shop at JOG by two fully kitted up GS riders.
Both had gone through the accesories catalogue and bought the full works for their weeekend chariots, as well as the clothing to match!
Asked them where they had come from, Wick, a full 15 miles away!
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