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    Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 17:07
Fitted Tarozzi adjustable clip-ons to the LM2, look nice, fit well etc. but even after tightening them to what I thought was 'plenty', they will still move a little when significant weight applied.
I don't want to break anything and Tarozzi don't give any torque settings and haven't answered my email so, anyone got them and know what sort of torque I need to fix them solid?   
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Just wondering if you resolved this problem. 
I have some Tarozzi High Rise clipons too which I am planning to fit. I noticed there are no instructions and so contacted the supplier for recommended torques setting but they don't have one available. A search on the net shows others have had these clipons rotate even when done up what they feel is tight.

Would be interested to know how yours have faired before I try and fit mine. Anyone else experienced this problem?


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I fitted a set of these to a friend's MK2 Le Mans . I was never happy with the rigidity either . I was waiting for a solution because I want to fit them to my MK4
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They sound like a waste of money. 
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What these people seem to be saying is that there are different size stanchions. If they are still turning maybe there is a discrepancy in the size you have and the size you need....


Maybe ask them the question....


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From the Morini forum...

 » 28 Jan 2019 15:50

I had them fitted to my Strada for a couple of years, tightened as well as I could with the relevant large Allen key. They stayed exactly where they should.

Re: Tarozzi high-rise clipons28 Jan 2019 16:18

Cheers, Mark.
I had a reply from the supplier this afternoon. It cant be an unusual problem as he's asked the manufacturer for a recommended torque figure a number of times, but they've consistently refused one :? Seems a strange thing for an engineering company. I shall be going back into the workshop later to apply some more 'umpty' - with the gracious approval of the supplier who is also interested in the result :wink:

Re: Tarozzi high-rise clipons


Its been at the back of my mind, Mike :shock: but Ive been promised free replacement of any failed parts so theres a bit of a safety net. I wound em up to 50Nm, which felt bloody tight and then some, but it was still possible to move em without being overly daft about it. Ive now reached 55Nm :? So far they seem to be holding. Ill have another tug at the bars after tea to see if theyve relaxed any more than I can .........


And from Laverda..
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https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=96079.15





Edited by theone&onlymin - 21 Nov 2019 at 19:45
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FWIW
Just micrometered the stanchions on a "35mm" LM1 fork, and the stanchions measure approx. 34,7 mm.
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Many thanks for replies, much appreciated.
I am planning to fit these to my other bike; an ageing Suzuki. The fork leg diameter is well matched to the Clip on clamp. (The clip ons are available in many clamp sizes)
Having read all I can find online the main complaint is the inability of the M10 cap bolt to hold. This bolt clamps the handle holder via a smooth conical joint and also the fork leg. The slippage experienced by others is in the cone allowing the handle to swivel up and down. Maybe some bicycle carbon assembly paste would work. There is no published tightening torque. 
Anyhow, good to know that not everyone experiences this problem. 
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When I've had similar problems I've put a strip of coarse emery paper between stanchion and clamp, not a very refined solution, but then I'm a rough old blacksmith.


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Originally posted by Kidneb Kidneb wrote:


FWIW
Just micrometered the stanchions on a "35mm" LM1 fork, and the stanchions measure approx. 34,7 mm.


Maybe that's enough to cause the problem especially if there`s a manufacturing tolerance as well, could be the reason they offer custom diameters at no extra cost.

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Originally posted by Rollo Rollo wrote:

Just wondering if you resolved this problem. 
I have some Tarozzi High Rise clipons too which I am planning to fit. I noticed there are no instructions and so contacted the supplier for recommended torques setting but they don't have one available. A search on the net shows others have had these clipons rotate even when done up what they feel is tight.

Would be interested to know how yours have faired before I try and fit mine. Anyone else experienced this problem?


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I never got a torque figure so I fitted them and tightened them up until they were solid and wouldn't move which was f'in tight, in truth probably tighter than I was really comfortable with but they didn't break and have stayed put so I'm calling it a success.

Sorry can't give you a figure.  Embarrassed


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That is good to hear. Thank you for the update
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Originally posted by Dukedesmo Dukedesmo wrote:

I never got a torque figure so I fitted them and tightened them up until they were solid and wouldn't move which was f'in tight, in truth probably tighter than I was really comfortable with but they didn't break and have stayed put so I'm calling it a success.

Sorry can't give you a figure.  Embarrassed

FWIW My experience has been exactly the same as DD’s
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Seems to me if they are sold for that model and fork tube diameter, you just tighten them up until they don't move.
If they break because they are overtightened, send them back as unfit for purpose.
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Makes me wonder what you do if you tighten them up good and hard, and they appear to be ok, and then they break when you brake. I guess if that happened it would be you who would be unfit for purpose. Probably permanently. 
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