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    Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 11:08
Morning chaps. A friend of mine needs a new main wiring harness for his 1980 T3. I get the job of fitting it
He has communicated with Greg Bender whose products have a fine reputation for excellence but with shipping, import tax etc are a little expensive.
Gutsibitz no longer stock the harnesses nor will they obtain them because they are not of an acceptable quality. Stein Dinse are out of stock and will be for a couple of months. So,does anyone here know of a supplier of said item which is of good quality?
There is a number of these harnesses for sale on eBay and at other suppliers but their quality is unknown. Any help much appreciated,
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Mr. Bender has a fine reputation for a very good reason, from what I read. Sadly, the added costs to UK make his products a luxury item here.

Cheaper harnesses which the UK/European suppliers no longer stock speak for their own reputation.

There are a number of m/cycle (re)wiring services mentioned (and recommended) on these pages, but they all tend to fit their own kit from what I've read.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 11:43
Try contacting Towza ...Towzatronics he rewired my V1000 .... not sure if he is still taking on a complete bike re wire nowadays but may make up a loom for you
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Moto Bel' is a well-known Guzzi specialist, and they list the loom "8 to10 days".

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave P. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 14:38
Thanks chaps.The problem with getting someone else to wire the bike is that it will surely turn out to be even more costly than importing a ready made harness from the USA.Plus, I could make a new harness myself as I recently did for my old V7 Special. But I don't really want to get into that.
JPC.Thanks for that,I wonder what the quality is like?

Edited by Dave P. - 26 Feb 2019 at 15:06
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Originally posted by Dave P. Dave P. wrote:

I wonder what the quality is like?

As ever, you pays yer money and you takes yer chances Smile
I can only say they're well-established, used to shame everyone in classic Euro endurance until a few years ago with their Guzzi racer.

Also, you only ever get the main loom along the spine of the bike to the headlight Molex, all the rest is still your problem. That makes the price pretty steep IMO.
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DIY? Make your own? I did using wire and connectors mostly from Vehicle Wiring Products, same wire colours, connector styles etc., and large bore black sleeving, but do also need proper crimping tool for best results. All I did was lay the new wires of appropriate colour against those of the old loom for length, and basically made a copy of it.


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I did similar and made my own, but on the bike not as a match to the old loom. I used crimp connectors with separate terminal insulators (not the horrid blue crimped insulated ones) and also soldered all crimped ends. All wrapped in heat shrink sleeve. It fits, it works and is unnoticeable. You may need a wiring diagram to attempt this though. Big smile
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Why does he need a new loom ?

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Originally posted by theone&onlymin theone&onlymin wrote:

Why does he need a new loom ?

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Because it's filthy,has corroded terminals,been badly repaired,altered,bodged and is generally buggered.

I've just spoken with the man and he has decided to take the Greg Bender route after all. Good decision.
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G’day Dave P, I can’t recommend Greg Bender’s wiring harness enough. I bought one for my S3 I have almost completed a full rebuild after a year and half. The harness is perfect. Not a wire too short or too long. Every connection is spot on and cleanly terminated. Every piece comes in a bag labelled. Unbelievable what a perfectionist he is. 

Just follow his articles on how to install if you have any probs. I had the added benefit that father in law lives in the US who got it over for me (my Guzzi parts mule!) but it was still pricey. 


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Cheers Paul, I'm looking forward to seeing the man's handiwork. It's highly renowned.
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Just recieved my complete loom for my Ambo' from Greg, blown away by quality and attention to detail,not to mention the service.
Like you i was reluctant regarding import costs etc but now it's here worth every penny, just need my spleen to repair itself so i can crack on and fit it.
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The thing about buying a top quality item like what Greg sells, is that while it may be top dollar and the import costs and carriage make it super top dollar plus ++ - you are never going to be sorry, and when you get it out of the bag it will look the part, and it will fit perfectly and work perfectly and each time you fire up the bike you will feel confident you are going to get there and get home again. Not that I have bought a loom from Greg, but reading his website leaves me in no doubt. 
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It still requires the owner to fit it correctly though. Not as simple as you might think.

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