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    Posted: 23 Aug 2016 at 01:13
I just bought a Stornello America 125 from an individual and need to get the bill of sale to the county for a tag. The seller had gotten the bike from the guy who owned it as a child and couldn't recall if it was a 1963 or 1964 model. The vin# that I find on the front of the frame is 14 digits, but every site I find wants 17 digit vin #'s. 

Any direction someone can point me to figure out the year of my Guzzi based on the vin#?

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Have you tried online resources such as this?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2016 at 08:59
Does the MGNOC run a dating service? I know the one in the UK does.
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Can you post up a photo of your bike? Is it the Scrambler type or Turismo type of Stornello America? Both were made and exported to the USA between 1967 and 1969. Is the prefix SA, or T?
Knowing exactly which year it was made is more difficult and can only really be known by looking on the original logbook (if it exists), contacting Moto Guzzi itself, or as Brian suggests, using a dating service offered by one of the owners' clubs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Don-Spada Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Aug 2016 at 21:03
There is a good list of Guzzi frame and a bit about VIN numbers in the Holland owners club site:
Not many (if any) Turismo models made it into the USA,(They have frame numbers N----)  Most are Sports or Sport America's

http://www.mgcn.nl/mg-framenummers
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Thanks for the responses. The vin starts with a T so it isn't a sport model.

The vin site didn't like the 14 digit number Confused

The other site did confirm that it was between 61-68. That's a start!

Here is the snap when I brought it home.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote italianmotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Aug 2016 at 13:27
If it has a T prefix it's a Sport base and called Sport America: Stornello 125 cc Sport (1961-1968)  from frame T 00 AA to frame T 99 GZ. Looks nice.


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Nice looking bike.  Great condition for 50+ years old.
As Italian Moto said, that is a Sport America.  Most in the states are this model.
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Great information! Thanks so much for that!
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Hi...I recently bought that same model Stornello and I had the same problem...could not determine exactly what year, and the vin websites all wanted 17 digits! Frustrating. Mine has confusing number...on the steering neck it says MOTO GUZZI and the has a configuration starting with a T and then a star...then two numbers and two letters, and another star! This exact configuration is also on the engine block. But on the frame, underneath it, is another series of 9 numbers and letters. Wow...any help would be marvelous!!
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Whereabouts under the frame? But anyway, the prefix and mumbers on the headstock and motor are the correct ones.
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Thanks for responding. The other series of nine digits is directly underneath the first ones which you say are correct. These nine, however, are not on the motor. Only the first series is also on the motor. I'm assuming the motor and frame are a match. I just cannot figure out how to determine what year etc and run a vehicle check on it??
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ps...any info about where I might be able to get parts for this bike would be great. I'm a novice with Italian bikes and so far I've seen very very little on Ebay here in the US. Thanks again!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote italianmotor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2016 at 13:27
They are probably the homologation numbers. You are welcome to post pics here of the numbers, or send me a photo of the numbers via PM or jabATmotormagazine.com and I'll have a look. Be aware that it may be that only the Moto Guzzi archive will be able to pin your bike down to a certain year, otherwise you're just using the same resources that the rest of us use, and they can be a bit vague. Regarding parts, depends what you need, should be plenty of parts in the USA, otherwise you need to look at Italian suppliers. That said, your bike from the pic looks pretty original and good condition = what do you need to change? Most things can be found. Italian bikes, eh??


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great looking bikeThumbs Up
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