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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iansoady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 14:07
All the more reason to stick to the D roads. You're much less likely to be clocked there.

The worst roads are the RNs that more or less parallel the autoroutes as they tend to have heavy goods traffic and are heavily policed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 15:20
Originally posted by Dave P. Dave P. wrote:

This year it's replacement windows and re-rendering the house.No major trips.

Oh crud. Ouch


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyclobutch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 15:52
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Oh, and please note, the French Police Nationale and Gendarmerie have been ordered to crack down on speeding and road safety in general, just be aware.
And theoretically any fines from speed cameras in Europe can now be enforced in the UK.

It has been some years since France was a speeding motorcyclists paradise. By some irony, after many years of enjoying the freedom of the road out there I finally got pulled rolling a stop line just a couple of years back. Whilst I felt it was probably arguable; not having any insurance certificate with me I was advised they would be pleased to impound my bike unless I could find it in my heart to stump up the readies - some bit North of 100 Euro. Ouch.

On the original question I have also taken the Motorail down to Livorno and then ridden back in a long weekend. The train is a real hoot - but horrible money.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 17:18
I know several people who have been done for rolling a stop line. You are not alone. I heard a report once of the Gendarmes setting up a picnic table by a stop line where the sign was difficult to see.
But yes they were charged with improving the accident statistics by Sarkozy, so a few years back.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cugsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 17:26
Ha..so many answers!  I'm not likely to speed on either a 20 year old clonker of a guzzi am or the 750 superdream I bought! And I used to despatch - did it for 6 years and got used to 10 hours in the saddle. Not that I'm planning to rush everywhere.  I'll take the ferry - despite my wallet reaching for my throat.  But the wife has her cruise and I think I have to do it now before my zimmer turns up.
   I've had a play with the maps and it comes to about 3000km (less than 2000 miles) from santander to geneva via the pyrenees and then to calais or some other ferry. That includes the travel from home to southampton and back.....sort off.  My spanish ..eet ees rusty and my french non existent!  I'll be travelling light - which according to the wife means socks ,undies and deoderant!  

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tarquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 17:52
2000 miles in that timescale will be fine.

As for underpants based on an eight day trip 2 pairs will suffice.

4 days from each pair is "De Rigeur".

Day 1 Wear normally

Day 2 Wear back to front

Day 3 Turn inside out and wear in correct orientation

Day 4 Wear back to front.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cugsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 18:09
Hmm, I might be screwed here. Seems you can't travel on 't ferry without booking a cabin ....an extra £100 or so. I was hoping to sleep in a lifeboat or by the engine for nowtConfused

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I like to do a European summer trip, usually I manage to combine with a couple of business meetings in Italy and Belgium.  For what it's worth my advice would be..
 - Don't overdo the distance.  I know I enjoy about 6 hours a day in the saddle.  More than that just isn't fun.  It was no problem to do huge distances on a Le Mans 40 years ago, but sadly not any longer.
 - Plan your distances on Google Maps.  Of course in the mountains you can cover distances more quickly than a in a car, but I like regular coffee / photo stops.
 - From Calais you can get to the Jura or Vosges in 1 day on the motorway.  That's how far you need to travel before the fun begins.
 - I think a plan to do both the Pyrenees and Alps within 10 days would be too ambitious (for me).

Last year my main focus was to ride the Route des Grandes Alpes, from Nice to Geneva.  Not a great distance, but it took two and half days.  

For a shorter trip I would recommend the Vosges and Black Forest.  Superb roads, the best food and wine and not too far away.

Have a good trip!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cugsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 21:19
Know what? I'm going to book the week off and wing it - fill the bike and ride to dover. Either chunnel or ferry and head to geneva. Then let the dice roll.  Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 21:22
Certainly a cheaper option. When in Geneva you can go north or south depending on the weather. Jura/Vosges or Alps.
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From Calais you can do Geneva in a day, but better to leave the A39 just south of Dole go over the Jura.  Don't go into Switzerland as you'll have to pay the €40 motorway carnet charge.  Go round the south side of lake Geneva in France and pick up the Route des Grandes Alpes in Thonon les Bain.  Follow this to Nice, then on the way back take the Route Napoleon back to Grenoble.  Then see if you have any time left!  And pray for good weather!
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When I plan my norway trip it'll be easier..
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Originally posted by cugsy cugsy wrote:

Hmm, I might be screwed here. Seems you can't travel on 't ferry without booking a cabin ....an extra £100 or so. I was hoping to sleep in a lifeboat or by the engine for nowtConfused

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Far cry from me and my mate trying to sleep on the stairs on the overcrowded IOM Steam Packet ferry. Shocked

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Originally posted by cugsy cugsy wrote:

Hmm, I might be screwed here. Seems you can't travel on 't ferry without booking a cabin ....an extra £100 or so. I was hoping to sleep in a lifeboat or by the engine for nowtConfused

rethink time

You can book a reserved lounge seat for £10.

But June already looks to be more or less fully booked for motorbikes Portsmouth to Santander.

Cars and vans still have spaces available to book.


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If you use the tunnel, it’s cheaper the earlier you book.
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