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    Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 18:19
I love riding my V65 but the suspension just feels so hard it gets uncomfortable to ride.  Every bump and pothole jarrs (spelling?) the bike.

I put Hagons on it (ok they were the cheapest version) which were maybe a little better but still too hard (yes they're on the softest setting).

I am just expecting too much from an old bike?  Or should I try to find some longer and/or softer shocks?

What are the Breva shocks like?  They seem to come up for sale often, are they soft? I'm not a fast rider so not looking for any fancy solution.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote s_ellinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 18:28
I don't know how true this is, but I did read that earlier Guzzi suspension tended to be hard and firmly damped partly because that was the definition of "taught" and partly because the rear susension has to cope with the greater unsprung weight (when compared to a chain drive bike) of the bevel box.

Not sure if it's true - these days, I try to ride around the pot holes.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 18:40
Don't recall problems with my 1980 V50. When you got the Hagons, did you tell them the weights involved so that they could supply the right weight springs? Sounds as if your springs might be too hard. A call to Hagons might be well worth while, they are very helpful.
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Stuart, if you want a pair of Breva ones, I have set here you are welcome to
they are not rusty either like most
you could try them and see if its any better
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I have hagons on my V50 and also find it harsh. I've sourced a pair of original Girling 110 lb / in springs which I will be fitting over the winter and see if they improve matters. That's the rate fitted to B33s etc so should be close.

Looking back through receipts it does seem as though Hagons supplied some alternative springs but I don't understand their rating system quoted on the document. And £50-dd for the springs alone seems a bit steep.....
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Don't go for longer shocks you will change the angle of the uj .
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Both my V50/3s are harsh rides, one is fitted with Konis the other is fitted with Hagons and like yours are on the softest setting. Unfortunately it appears to be a guzzi thing along with the pneumatic/hydraulic forks (cheap). Both bikes are not bad on roadholding with the Konis having a slight edge but changing the harshness appears to need money throwing at it in that changing the back end may influence the front end and vice versa.
I also checked the smooth operation of the swing arm with the shocks disconnected just in case there was any stiffness there, along with all the shock mounting bushes.
I`m no lightweight at 17 stone but my stick like grandson calls both my bikes `boneshakers` compared to modern day machinery, thing is in the 80s I don`t remember them being this harsh on a lot worse roads, but perhaps that`s more about my memory than the bikes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 2017 at 12:58
The V50 with Hagons were fine and the V1000 is way better with Hagons than the koni dial a rides it did have and I was totally a Koni guy , bought the others as was short of £ at the time but to be fair they are brill Italian suspension it often firmer than jap one reason they hold the road but bone jarring ....no not at all
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Weird isn't it. I'm running a couple of bikes on bargains basement Hagons. The Kawa H1 is just fine, the Hardley way too harsh. The Veefer and T3 are both on Ikons. Probly about another £100 on top of the Hagons, but you can sure tell. They both ride peachy. 
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Originally posted by cyclobutch cyclobutch wrote:

Weird isn't it. I'm running a couple of bikes on bargains basement Hagons. The Kawa H1 is just fine, the Hardley way too harsh. The Veefer and T3 are both on Ikons. Probly about another £100 on top of the Hagons, but you can sure tell. They both ride peachy. 
I run my 650 TT on Made in China £69 Shocks but if your over 10 stone I would think twice but for me Ace
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