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Topic: Mandello Del Lario
Posted By: jmee54
Subject: Mandello Del Lario
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:30
I have a yearning for a trip. I love Italy and ride Guzzis, so what could be more sensible than a ride to Mandello Del Lario as part of a holiday in Italy. With the 100th anniversary coming up I thought that might be a good time to go. It gives me a while to cement the idea into someone's brain either as a pillion or as freight and to save some cash!
Anyway, is there any sort of club activity being planned? It's going to be packed, so am I too late to book accommodation anywhere near? Where's a good place for a day or two? I want to tour about a bit too. Has anyone tried the shuttle truck and flown out? Is it cost effective? I'd like more time there than travelling.

Anybody got any ideas?

Cheers John.



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Posted By: Glawster
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 19:18
It's a good point you make John.
It's the Laverda 70th Anniversary this July and a couple of my Laverda mates are planning to ride to Breganze on 1950s Laverda 100s!  Bearing this in mind I'm considering a trip to Mandello on my 1955 Falcone Sport - after all it should be a piece of cake compared to riding a Laverda 100.  Any other owners of "elderly" Guzzis interested in such a trip?  Of course it would be a lot easier to stick the Falcone on the trailer and drive it down.
I reckon there's plenty of accomodation around the lake and will probably stay in Bellagio.
Chris (JerryAtric) - you going to get that model S tuned up?
Cheers,
Derek


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1973 Guzzi V7 Sport
1955 Guzzi Falcone Sport



Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 19:29
Two years ago when four of us travelled to the Alps we included a visit to the Factory. We booked a self contained flat for two days a couple of miles out of Bellagio.


Lovely couple owned it and it was very reasonable. Just go on booking.com and you will find plenty available in that area.

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Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 19:30
I can do better than that. I had the Superalce running today. The Model S suffered a possible stuck valve last Thursday whilst at max chat (40mph?). It's even slower now There's only one person I have to clear the plan with....


Posted By: Glawster
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 19:35
Get B to fly out.  A week here would be right up her street (although well beyond my budget..)
http://vistalagodicomo.com/en/" rel="nofollow - http://vistalagodicomo.com/en/



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1973 Guzzi V7 Sport
1955 Guzzi Falcone Sport



Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 19:39
MAMA MIA! Have you seen the price of a suite (obviously the minimum accommodation required)? I could get both my singles professionally rebuilt for that At this rate I'll be sending you with a shopping list, Signore Glawster


Posted By: rapheal
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 23:31
if time is short fly out and get the train to mandello and rent a Guzzi from Agostinis
we usually take 3 days to get there, some nutters belt across France on the motorway and do it in a day
but then they are wrecked when they get there
cant see the pint in doing that meself, i want to savoir the journey
I am going this year and taking my nephew with his V7 and a few friends might be joining me as I will act as a tour guide

we will stay in F1 hotels en route, then camp on the lakes edge at Mandello and rough it, the advantage being we are in the middle of everything



Posted By: TooJuicy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 18:17
Originally posted by Jerry atric Jerry atric wrote:

I could get both my singles professionally rebuilt for that
 
We're only 2 weeks into 2019 but this might already be contender for Quote Of The Year
. I love this place.
 
Tony


Posted By: red leader one
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 20:40
Where are the prices?


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 20:54
Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

Where are the prices?




Click on the Hotel link Bill and put a date in. 895 Euros for one night in January is a tad more expensive than the Formula 1 Hotels I normally use when after a quick stop over. It's 1315 Euros a night in June!!!!


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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: red leader one
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 12:46
That's silly,cheaper to stay at Claridge's.


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 13:11
Are they located on Lake Como? LOL

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 18:18
Go on, you know you want to. LOL


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Posted By: rbt1548
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 10:52
Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

That's silly,cheaper to stay at Claridge's.
 
Fair enough!, but I personally would like accommodation a wee bit closer to the factory, then if I chose to make a day of it, for example, out for lunch, a couple of beers, visit factory, dinner and finish with a couple of beers, I could get a taxi if I wanted, but if I stayed at Claridge's the cost of the taxi would probably be too prohibitive.


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1958 Wife
1965 BSA Lightning Clubman

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Posted By: Ken-Guzzibear
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 11:37
This may sound totally nuts but a while ago we looked into a trip to Italy for 3-4 weeks Hire a car stay in B&B/Hotels I was utterly gobsmacked at the prices , back then sure Air fare was not a lot But the cost of hiring a moderate little car and hotels were through the roof. So we looked at alternatives, We actually went to Daytona Biketoberfest and then toured around Florida nice sunshine Daytona is fantastic. OK it is not Italy, but the flights were a lot more but the hotels were really nice and less than a third of the basic ones in Italy, The car hire was a fraction and it was a nice comfy Chrysler 300 great for their roads, fuel was also a fraction of over in Europe too. All in all we had 4 weeks in the sun Fantastic bike content at Daytona ....and the whole cost was less than 3 weeks in Italy, The hotels and other attractions were stunning we took in Cape Canaveral and Universal Busch Gardens are fantastic, but a highlight was St Augustine ..... OK I know that, for some, Mandello is a pilgrimage and I totally get that. But for a Holiday with bike content and for the sheer value for money ..... it is worth thinking outside the box sometimes. Have to say Daytona it one of those things well worth doing

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Posted By: jmee54
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 13:13
I get that Ken but it is Italy I want to return to and the Guzzi element is a bonus extra. If anyone has knowledge of cheaper end accommodation  I would be grateful. My plan thus far is to use the shuttle truck to Geneva, ride to Mandello, Florence, Pisa, and maybe Stelvio pass (a bit in the wrong direction) and loads of places in between. Two venues, one somewhere near the factory and the other nearer to Florence and surrounding area would be ideal.
The pillion would like somewhere with a pool, as would I if I can afford it.


Posted By: Glawster
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 16:57
There's plenty of accommodation to suit all budgets around Lake Como Jmee - my comments regarding the Vista Palazzo were not serious!  At the top of the lake around Colico prices are much lower than Bellagio last June in a good Hotel for £100/night but there are much cheaper options.  Try Booking.com or Airbnb.
Regarding Alpine passes, I really don't recommend the Stelvio, unless it's on your bucket list.  Too busy and the hairpins are so tight that you pretty much have to stop to change direction.  For me the best route over the Alps is the Timmelsjoch Pass, which has every type of bend and a bonus of a superb motorcycle museum at the top.  It is a toll road though.  
However at the top of Lake Como, try the Splugen Pass over to Switzerland.  That's a proper old school route with very narrow road, sheer drops etc.  Just the job if you like a challenge!

Ken,
My son rented a VW Golf from Linate last June for £200 for the week.  Seems pretty fair to me.


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1973 Guzzi V7 Sport
1955 Guzzi Falcone Sport



Posted By: ranton_rambler
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 17:16
I went over the Spluegen on my loop, on trip to Mandello. Going up the Swiss side was great, but coming down the Italian side with drum brakes was not so good. Would do it again on a bike with decent brakes though.


Posted By: Glawster
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 19:47
SmileSmile  I know what you mean!  The photos below are on the Swiss side of the Splugen Pass in 1981.  The "road" was quite dodgy in those days and my mate on the XT500 (with 5 gallon alloy tank) had the perfect tool for going up alpine passes.  He left me and my LM1 far behind on the ascents.  However when it came to descending his puny SLS front brake was red hot after the first few turns and he had to rely on engine braking from then on.  Gave me a chance to catch up!

https://flic.kr/p/2edxaJD" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/2edxaJD" rel="nofollow - Swiss 34 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/" rel="nofollow - Derek Wardell , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2cPCth4" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/2cPCth4" rel="nofollow - Swiss 35 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/" rel="nofollow - Derek Wardell , on Flickr




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1973 Guzzi V7 Sport
1955 Guzzi Falcone Sport



Posted By: TooJuicy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 21:04
Jmee - it may be difficult to find but the Nov/Dec (#49) issue of Adventure Bike Rider has a 24-page guide on Italy, it more describes a country-long trip they took but the Splügen Pass is that author's favourite too.

As for prices, some frightening/silly figures have been mentioned. Car rental for example, I used Alamo from Pisa airport (a premium location) which is £160/week with a Renault Clio.  Accommodation, I never stayed near Mandello d/L but my wife & I spent a week at a very Italian hotel  in Stresa (Hotel Elena) in a fab location, close to Lake Maggiore & on main town square, and room rates there are £80/nt in June including breakfast (for 2) & private parking - I don't expect Stresa will be convenient for you, it's 1hr30 from Mandello d/L,  but that gives a clue to accommodation prices in June.

Tony



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