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Topic: Stolen bike
Posted By: Tony G
Subject: Stolen bike
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2022 at 21:32
So I arrived home from a holiday to find my bike had been stolen. Phoned the police they are coming tomorrow. Phoned Benetts Bike insurerince They didn't know what a moto Guzzi was. Is that a bike.

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I'll get their soon



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Posted By: Simond
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2022 at 22:17
Tony, that’s bad news, and I’m sorry for your loss.

Probably worth advising everyone on here, and the MGCGB forum that your bike has been nicked.

Post photos, model, capacity, engine number, frame number, registration number, anything distinctive to make everyone aware that it’s a stolen bike.

And scan eBay / gumtree / local papers / etc daily.

Good luck
Simon


Posted By: Barry
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2022 at 08:15
Ugh. Sorry to heear that Tony. Agreed: photos, model etc. And we can at least be more pairs of eyes for you.


Posted By: Guzzished
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2022 at 08:45
Originally posted by Simond Simond wrote:

Tony, that’s bad news, and I’m sorry for your loss.

Probably worth advising everyone on here, and the MGCGB forum that your bike has been nicked.

Post photos, model, capacity, engine number, frame number, registration number, anything distinctive to make everyone aware that it’s a stolen bike.

And scan eBay / gumtree / local papers / etc daily.

Good luck

Post all those details on here and on the MGCGB web site'stolen bikes section ',
Stolen bikes have been recovered before due to MGCGB members spotting ads etc.
More chance of us finding it than the police I shouldn't wonder.
Any neighbors/ local business' got CCTV that might have caught the scum in the act ?
Simon


Posted By: Ken-Guzzibear
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2022 at 09:06
An awful lot of stolen Guzzis turn up fairly local to where they were taken, Pictures make and model they are difficult for thieves to get rid of

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Posted By: AdrianW
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2022 at 13:51
Sorry to hear that Tony..
As others have said post details in as many places as you can , will make it harder for the scumbags to pass it on..  Check on Ebay for Guzzi parts in case they try to break it...

Good luck with finding it soon..

Adrian
Bristol UK


Posted By: johnno
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2022 at 16:42
At work we are always having tooled up hooded bike and car  thieves This is Loughborough and the police have no interest until someone is hurt . Police will give you a crime number I am amazed they are actually visiting you Thumbs Up Police just don't stand a chance nowadays.

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1100 sport corsa , Yam R1, guzzi 650tt rider


Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2022 at 21:45
You have all my sympathy Tony. I am paranoid about my bike every time we go away. At least they didn't burgle your house, trying to look on the positive side.


Posted By: Guzzished
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 08:53
Tony,
No details posted yet, on here or MGCGB stolen bike register.
Any news ? 🤔 🧐
We can't look if we don't know.


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 17:24
Yes it's been burnt out

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Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 17:25
Tried posting bike but can't post pictures

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Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 17:27
Unhappy

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Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 18:00
police just phoned he's going to phone the recovery people to check chasis number.

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I'll get their soon


Posted By: Dave P.
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 18:23
Commiserations Tony. You must feel gutted. When my Commando was stolen many years ago it made me feel ill. I never saw it again.

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Posted By: johnno
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 18:26
When my XS1100 yam was stolen I question myself if I had parked it there 
I personally recovered it by spotting.the bike being ridden in traffic and jumping on the back of the bike . The police cheered me when I turned up at the police station .True story 
 


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1100 sport corsa , Yam R1, guzzi 650tt rider


Posted By: johnno
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 18:37
Originally posted by Tony G Tony G wrote:

Yes it's been burnt out
gutted for you 

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1100 sport corsa , Yam R1, guzzi 650tt rider


Posted By: Guzzished
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 18:44
Bummer.


Posted By: theone&onlymin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 18:58
A friend's newly acquired low milage Centauro after the scum in Birkenhead had stolen it from outside a caff where he was having a wee bite a couple of months back...

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Cheers
Min


Posted By: rapheal
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2022 at 22:23
Mine is tracked for that reason
as is my car
I have an Axe
it is capable of cutting through garage doors
nick my bike and I am coming for you



Posted By: Guzzished
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 00:46
And I thought I was being paranoid because I never walk away from my bike without putting a strong disclock on the front wheel, not evan for five minutes, evan if I can see it from wherever I'm going.
I am aware that wouldn't stop a determined practised experienced t'leaf, but I feel it would deter the kind of juvenile childish brainless t**ser that has done this.
Bring back the birch, fifty lashes followed by five years hard labour on bread and water, and a concrete slab for a bed.
They'd not want to chance it twice.


Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 07:55
Originally posted by Guzzished Guzzished wrote:

Bring back the birch, fifty lashes followed by five years hard labour on bread and water, and a concrete slab for a bed.
They'd not want to chance it twice.

Oh, that's a bit over the top. I suspect the 50 lashes might just be enough. Why go to the trouble of organising 5 years hard labour at the taxpayers' expense?


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Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 10:11
No it's not Brian.Wink When I got back from the NC500, I said no mare bikes's. But now I think if I don't then the scum have won.Disapprove

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Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 15:12
Maybe settle for just cutting off the right hand?



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Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 17:30
As long as they are right handed. I'll be happy Smile

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I'll get their soon


Posted By: Guzzished
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2022 at 19:16
They don't get paid for the hard labour, profits go to upkeep.
Harsh ? They'd think they got off lightly if the alternative was ME.


Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2022 at 13:12
The bastards, nothing is too harsh. Would it cheer you up if I suggested Nail'em up, nail some sense into them"


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2022 at 16:49
A bit late now but Tracking devices on ebay, starting at £8.75 Hmm next bike.Embarrassed

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I'll get their soon


Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2022 at 18:46
If you get one, just make sure it's one which works well over some distance. Lot of cheap poor quality stuff sold on Ebay.


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Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.


Posted By: Andy M
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 09:30
Originally posted by Tony G Tony G wrote:

A bit late now but Tracking devices on ebay, starting at £8.75 Hmm next bike.Embarrassed

You'll need someone very good with phones to set one of those up. You buy the SIM card (so £8.75 isn't the end cost) and then need to start texting long, case sensitive strings of gobbledegook to it to get it to respond. The instructions are of course in Chinglish and assume you full knowledge of mobile phone networks. Send me your address, you can have the one I gave up on, assuming the spiders in the back corner of the garage will give it up.

The next step up are £40 and work as advertised. They supply the sim and you log on to a website just like buying a new phone. Just like mobile phone providers, once you are settled they double the fees. Expect to pay 50p a week or more. I aren't going to name the one I used because of this.

Then there is what you do once the bike is stolen and you know where it is. Do not expect the police to go there sirens blasting and arrest the scrote whose lock up it is. This isn't 1975, the police fear hurting anyone's feelings too much to actually leave their offices. Go DIY if you know couple of big lads who own pick-axe handles and satisfaction will be offset by plod coming round later to discuss your gender bias regarding hired thugs. So, what will you do with said tracker info? There is some evidence the high end tracker companies (£200+ fitting and £1 a day) make some sort of contribution to the Policeman's ball of something and can get them out, but often still not. These come with immobilisers, so expect ride halting problems when they age. 

Andy 






Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 09:42
Sadly, I have to agree with Andy's well put argument. You won't get any help from Plod unless they happen to run over your abandoned bike on the way to Greggs. My farmer neighbour went with a bunch of big lads and got his stolen trailer back because police would not go to the caravan site where it was. The next night his hay barn burnt down (coincidence?). Police came and confiscated his shotgun because it could hold 3 cartridges!


Posted By: Guzzished
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 09:56
Good grief, what's the world coming to?
Guy that works in my local petrol station was showing off his new alarm system the other day, about £30 off of flea bay, touch his bike and a loud authoratve voice goes, Step away from the bike, touch it again and a very loud ear piercing pulsing alarm goes off, can be set up as an imobiliser as well or just alarm, I was impressed and intend to get the details off him to fit to my bikes when he's had his for a while. ( Incase of any developing probs over time. )


Posted By: Andy M
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 14:04
Immobilisers are the biggest cause of vehicles having to be recovered. No one pays the slightest bit of attention to them wailing away as the bike is lifted into a van. All you can do on the street is make yours harder to steal than the next one, a £150+ disc lock is about the current level, forget the cast ones that can be chiselled open in seconds. 

Spend your cash on having the house alarm extended into the garage (and buy your neighbours something at Christmas), tie down points and a chain with at least 13mm links and whatever other hardware (like bars that stop an up and over door being jacked) you need to upgrade the feeble locks most buildings have. Don't forget the hinges and roof, you can just drive the pins out of most shed doors and swing the door open on the lock, or just kick a hole in the roof or wall and open internal locks from the inside. UK thieves are not subtle, forget lock picking lawyers on YouTube. Parking a car in front of the bike helps, just don't keep the keys together. 

You should be spending about 10% of the contents value on security. Seems a lot, but good locks last years and given how many places have zero security there isn't really an arms race until you get into top end stuff that's stolen to order. 

Andy 


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 16:10
Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. 👍




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“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 16:12
Originally posted by Tony G Tony G wrote:

No it's not Brian.Wink When I got back from the NC500, I said no mare bikes's. But now I think if I don't then the scum have won.Disapprove


Will it be another Guzzi Tony?


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California 111,California 1100i,Suzuki FZ50, Yamaha YB100, NSU Quickly, Suzuki Burgman 400


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 16:22
Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. 👍



How about a 10kv electric fence round it? (The farm type of course).



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Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 18:51
Yes It's going to be another Guzzi  love the sound of them. 

I'll make the garage a bit more secure, if that's possible. Then get a ring battery CCTV. Every little thing helps


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I'll get their soon


Posted By: red leader one
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 21:20
Think of it like a Virus which nothing can stop.

The more barriers you place in it's way the harder it will be to break through.

Barriers,
 
Wash hands
 
Gel hands

Put on gloves.

Change gloves.

Put dirty wipes directly into waste bag etc (stops cross contamination)

5 Barriers


Now do it for the bike.

Suggestions please from everyone.


Posted By: red leader one
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 21:23
First suggestion,

Hardware (like bars or posts that stop an up and over door being jacked open)


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2022 at 07:04
Thats the next thing to get . Maybe a long bar to go alone the bottom of the door and padlocked each side. 

but where do you stop.


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Posted By: V7Chris
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2022 at 07:25
Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. 👍



That's all very well if you have a second hand baby that needs to be secured by an alarm Tarquin, but what about those of us that are worried about securing our bikes in the garage? Frankly, I am surprised social services haven't visited you anyway if you're leaving babies unattended in the garage.....


Posted By: AdrianW
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2022 at 09:57
Not a bike but a story some years ago always makes me smile..
A softop MGB owner was always having his car stolen outside his house.. Always found, not too far away so just local joyriders..
Police were as usual not interested.. 
So, enterprising owner made a "security device"..  This comprised of a piece of plywood, some foam and a fabric cover to make a seat cushion...   To finish off he inserted a large quantity of large darning needles vertically in the foam before adding the cover..

Apparently he was woken one night by screams, his car wasn't touched again....

Cheers,
Adrian
Bristol UK


Posted By: Andy M
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2022 at 15:02
I recall many years ago a magazine article that placed a fireflash/stage pyrotechnic in a huge tub of orange or green barrier cream , used a mousetrap as a contactor and connected the pin/string from that to the garage door.

Imagine how much some scrote could take you for these days if you deafened him, embedded a bit of plastic tub in his face and made him feel permanently sad, unsafe and with flashbacks going about in a world where an IED might be lurking in every locked out building he broke into.

Forget the fantasies of splitting the country in two and placing the wets, thieving chavs and human rights lawyers in the other half though, you will go to jail if you so much as look funny at a thief. You are easy to find, have something the authorities can take off you and aren't likely to be a popular demographic with the courts. You need to show you both feared for your life and had no other escape before the law will support you. The UK unfortunately isn't Texas on this score. 

Andy 


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2022 at 19:21
Originally posted by V7Chris V7Chris wrote:

Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. 👍



That's all very well if you have a second hand baby that needs to be secured by an alarm Tarquin, but what about those of us that are worried about securing our bikes in the garage? Frankly, I am surprised social services haven't visited you anyway if you're leaving babies unattended in the garage.....

Chris, as Captain Mainwearing would often say.................LOLLOLLOL
 


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Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2022 at 21:19
What about a plank with nails through. Surely it's my garage I can secure it. Hmm it's difficult.

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Posted By: Andy M
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 11:29
Originally posted by Tony G Tony G wrote:

What about a plank with nails through. Surely it's my garage I can secure it. Hmm it's difficult.

Anything designed to hurt an intruder will get you in trouble. Goes all the way back to Georgian/Victorian poachers. Bear traps are illegal (unless you have have a problem with bears on your property) , shooting poachers with a licensed shot gun after they attack you a court would discuss. In todays climate the fact you suggested a board with nails on social media could well be a problem for your defence. 

Andy 


Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 12:11
And never forget that one day you might forget it's there.




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Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.


Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 12:35
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

And never forget that one day you might forget it's there.





Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 13:25
Ahh AndyM in my defence I never mentioned a Board. Big smile

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Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 14:00
Waiting for the change in the law making it illegal to stop someone stealing something.


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Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.


Posted By: c13pep
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 14:36
A sign on the outside of your garage/shed warning that an alarm and security devices are guarding the contents would be enough to save you from a claim. 
My, then, dog bit a courier who foolishly entered his pen to leave a parcel, had there been a sign on the gate ( beware of the dog) then my insurance would not have paid their claim.

CHRIS 


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Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 14:39
That's an idea Chris thank you.

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Posted By: nab301
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 17:21
Originally posted by AdrianW AdrianW wrote:


Apparently he was woken one night by screams, his car wasn't touched again....

Cheers,
Adrian
Bristol UK

Classic !  I'd imagine that put some colour in his cheeks!       I remember  a friend used to remove the steering wheel as a deterrent.


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'19 CB125F,

'18 DL250 SUZUKI V STROM,'99 Bmw R1100S, '03Bullet 65 500, '93 MZ301 Saxon fun (offroad)


Posted By: Simond
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 20:55
I recall Mr Bean doing that…


Posted By: Guzzi1000SE
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2022 at 22:39
I remember reading many many years ago, a review of a guy who had a Kawasaki GPZ750 Turbo.  At the time they were very desirable and if I remember correctly was the most stolen bike around.  Anyway, he rigged it so that if someone tried to steal his bike after about 20 seconds of riding away the thief would get a surprise when a 3 inch spike shot up out of the seat.   Shocked 

Seemed like a good idea to me, but I also thought what if it malfunctioned and it was the owner that got the surprise. Ouch


Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2022 at 08:54
A friend of mine had a GPZ nearly twenty years ago. He took it to the local Bike shop (Won't say which one) They said it's a project bike so did what they could.

Jump farword 20 year I was in said bike shop, they have a GPZ for sale at new bike money. IT'S A CRAZY MIXED UP WORLD . BUT I LIKE IT


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Posted By: Tony G
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2022 at 14:44
Just a thought what if I got a 8x4 ply wood and painted anti vandal paint on for when I'm away and lie it flat on the floor. Or would I get arrested for getting some skanks shoes dirty. Big smile

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