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Topic: Classic moped
Posted By: Tarquin
Subject: Classic moped
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 16:35
Hi just testing the water to see if anyone has an interesting old moped that they are not using and may consider selling? Ideally it must have gears and something like a Puch MS or MV50 would fit the bill as would an NSU quickly.


A Guzzi Dingo would be nice but I'm not certain if they have gears or are just twist and go?

I'm going to be doing a few runs next year with some other like minded fools on old mopeds and am starting to gently search now.


Please PM me with anything that may be suitable and within a sensible price range.


We do not have to stick within the legal definition of a moped so even a nice old Yamaha Townmate stepthru would be allowed to do the run.



Thanks Darryl

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Posted By: BondEquipe
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 17:38
My experience is that the further you can drift from an actual moped (and the inflated value related to people reliving their youth on what they had back then) the more affordable it will be.

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Stephen
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Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 17:49
a friend has a Jaguar SS and a Lotus Cortina in his garage. In his shed, he has a Yamaha shaft drive moped, which may well be a Townmate.  Will he use it? Absolutely not - no bike licence.
Will he sell it to me?  Absolutely not.  It’ll sit there wasting away, which is a real shame.
 


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 18:06
Thanks both parties, very valid comments. 👍

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 18:28
I served my Apprenticeship at an engineering company named Trojan, and one of the things made on a small production line, was a 49cc Mini Motor which was mounted over the rear wheel of a bicycle, one of which was my first motorised vehicle.  Great fun, and better than busting a gut pedalling.  Heavy on rear tyres, though.   My favourite was the Cyclemaster, which was mounted within the rear wheel. They frequently appear on eBay, fetching up to about a grand.  When the NSU Quickly came out, it wiped out the bicycle mounted motors.  None of the forgoing is of the slightest interest to Darryl, of courseBig smile


Posted By: Jerry atric
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 18:47
How much have you got in your sky rocket? I have a Guzzi Cardellino that I cannot be bothered with. 73cc though, is that too big?


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 19:04
Originally posted by iceni iceni wrote:

I served my Apprenticeship at an engineering company named Trojan, and one of the things made on a small production line, was a 49cc Mini Motor which was mounted over the rear wheel of a bicycle, one of which was my first motorised vehicle.  Great fun, and better than busting a gut pedalling.  Heavy on rear tyres, though.   My favourite was the Cyclemaster, which was mounted within the rear wheel. They frequently appear on eBay, fetching up to about a grand.  When the NSU Quickly came out, it wiped out the bicycle mounted motors.  None of the forgoing is of the slightest interest to Darryl, of courseBig smile


Not at all George, I welcome your views as much as I enjoy chatting to you.

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 19:29
Originally posted by Jerry atric Jerry atric wrote:

How much have you got in your sky rocket? I have a Guzzi Cardellino that I cannot be bothered with. 73cc though, is that too big?


PM sent

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: BondEquipe
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 20:26
Originally posted by Jerry atric Jerry atric wrote:

How much have you got in your sky rocket? I have a Guzzi Cardellino that I cannot be bothered with. 73cc though, is that too big?
Now that is a really cool answer to a moped challenge! 
Incidentally there is a Nibbio on Fleabay for £1200 or so.


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Stephen
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Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 20:40
It's a conspiracy!!

Your all trying to tempt me with Moped Exotica.

I have regular biking trips abroad to fund and have to keep my sensible head on re the Moped price.


That Nibbio looks bloody lovely though.

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: BondEquipe
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 23:13
Depends what you want, doesn't it? And what you're willing to pay of course. If you are thinking FS1E or AP50 then you'd better have deep pockets. Even C50s have a cult following. Widen the search to 50s that weren't sold here (esp ones that aren't actually mopeds, like the Nibbio or various Malagutis, etc being imported) and prices are sensible, or at least less eye watering.

I've recently bought a Gilera 50TS, ostensibly for my daughter! If it had been a 70s one then it would have been 2 grand. As an 80s one it's restricted (or at least it was) and less fashionable so much cheaper.


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Stephen
Black & Gold LM2
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Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 07:57
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0119.htm#001" rel="nofollow - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0119.htm#001

This might be of interest, if only for the Italian connection.


Posted By: Dave P.
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 09:39
Crikey!! That's comprehensive.With all this info' to hand I feel that I must find one to buy immediately.

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Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 10:04
You haven’t got one😱!!
Sorry about the size of content - I only read the top bit and thought that was it. 


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 10:05
Originally posted by iceni iceni wrote:

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0119.htm#001" rel="nofollow - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0119.htm#001

This might be of interest, if only for the Italian connection.



Thanks for that George, it was an enjoyable read.

Can you advise as to where my nearest stockist is please and I want the £18 and ten shillings model .

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: BondEquipe
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 16:22
Sooo  .  .  .  .


Did you get one?


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Stephen
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Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 17:05
Sorry, Darryl, I’ve just seen this.  If only I’d read your post earlier- I’ve just sold the last one at a knock down price of £12 10 shillings, or about 15 Groats where tha’s from.Big smile



Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 19:28
Originally posted by BondEquipe BondEquipe wrote:

Sooo  .  .  .  .


Did you get one?



I now have a Jawa 210 in the garage as a cheap stop gap but the search goes on for the "Right Moped"

This one stands me at £450 and is mint even for its 28 years but I'm reliably informed by the Ped boys that one ped is never enough.


I seem to have been caught out once before like this with these bloody Guzzi's


George, less of the hilarity and find me a bloody Townmate.

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 19:39
Bloody frustrating, as I know there’s one sitting about 1/4 mile away that will never see the light of day or be used again.
I’ll give the owner a call and see if he’d consider parting with it.
If he weakens, I’ll ask him for a price, but obviously with no obligation to you, Darryl.


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 19:44
That would be great George and really appreciated.

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: George S
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 20:23
A friend of mine lives in France and buys mopeds in France and Italy and sells them in UK. Delivers about twice a year all over UK. I have had three lightweights from him at good prices with no delivery costs. If interested PM me and I will give you contact details. He is English and happy to email photos and details of bikes for sale
Good luck. Lightweights are getting more popular what with increasing prices of classic bikes.


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George

1994 Nevada
1957 Cardellino 73cc
1961 Zigolo 110cc
1961 Stornello 125cc
Son's 1990 1000S to borrow any time


Posted By: iansoady
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2019 at 10:37
In a moment of blind stupidity I restored an NSU Quickly a few years ago. The intention was to sling it on the back of the Discovery for popping off to the boulangerie for morning baguettes and croissants. It was an interesting restoration and the NSU looked gorgeous with its art deco mudguards etc. However, it was barely able to pull the skin off a crème brûlée so my crafty plan failed and I sold the Quickly through Bonhams - losing in the process (of course).

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Ian
1982 V50
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Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2019 at 11:35
I like that Ian. How many gears did it have? Thumbs Up

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: iansoady
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2019 at 13:24
Yes, it's pretty isn't it? 2 gears operated by a scooter-type twistgrip. I never worked out why the "performance" was so poor - initially I thought I'd put the piston in backwards but no.


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Ian
1982 V50
1952 Norton ES2


Posted By: c13pep
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2019 at 14:24
They never lost the `motor assisted push bike` monica so expectations weren't high with regard to performance, the one I had needed buckets of sweat while pedalling to get it to go, nevertheless a nice looking restoration

CHRIS

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Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 16:37
Darryl, I’ve just spoken to the owner of the Townmate and as i  expected, he wants to hang on to it.  It’s a great shame that people do this.  It’s a matter of “I won’t ride it, and don’t need it, but you cant buy it”.
There’s one on eBay at the mo ; one bid at £500.
Hope you find one soon.  I’ll put led warning lamps on it for you if you like😎


Posted By: johnno
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 17:07
Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

In a moment of blind stupidity I restored an NSU Quickly a few years ago. The intention was to sling it on the back of the Discovery for popping off to the boulangerie for morning baguettes and croissants. It was an interesting restoration and the NSU looked gorgeous with its art deco mudguards etc. However, it was barely able to pull the skin off a crème brûlée so my crafty plan failed and I sold the Quickly through Bonhams - losing in the process (of course).

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After:


the moped looks great , I once pretended I had broken down when the cycling club overtook me up hill . I was on a Raleigh Runabout lol The mudguards on your bike are beautiful

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Posted By: iceni
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 17:35
Another boring fact from the Trojan archive; to follow up on the success of the minimotor, a 2 speed moped with telescopic forks and a torsion type rear suspension was developed, but before it could be launched, along came the NSU Quickly, which wiped it out on price alone.  


Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 19:00
Originally posted by iceni iceni wrote:

Darryl, I’ve just spoken to the owner of the Townmate and as i  expected, he wants to hang on to it.  It’s a great shame that people do this.  It’s a matter of “I won’t ride it, and don’t need it, but you cant buy it”.
There’s one on eBay at the mo ; one bid at £500.
Hope you find one soon.  I’ll put led warning lamps on it for you if you like😎



Thanks George and I really do appreciate the effort that you have made .

Re your offer for the LED lights on any future purchase, again I really do appreciate it but feel that having to wear welding goggles whilst riding in case I need to indicate or switch to high beam could prove to be a major disadvantage.

The cucumber sandwiches are in the post and RLO mentioned sending a long slim parcel down to you.

It's probably either a clothes prop or an ironing board .   

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


Posted By: theone&onlymin
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 20:02
My first bike was a NSU Quickly. The guy wanted £1 for it, but as there were three of us, he reduced it to 99p so that we could each have a equal share.

Cheers
Min


Posted By: V7Chris
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2019 at 07:47
Mine was a Garelli 50, spent more time pushing the sodding thing than riding it. You (or at least I) learn the hard way!


Posted By: Paul-l
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2019 at 19:42
I saw this on another forum and thought you might be interested

https://autosh*te.com/topic/37655-roffle-92-reg-townmate-t80/" rel="nofollow - https://autosh*te.com/topic/37655-roffle-92-reg-townmate-t80/

Bah! You're going to have yo copy the link and add an 'i' in the appropriate place otherwise the link don't work


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Posted By: Brian UK
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2019 at 21:04
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Posted By: Tarquin
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2019 at 09:54
Thanks both

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California 111 70th Anniversary Model, California 1100i 75th Anniversary Model, Honda ST1300


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”



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