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Originally posted by Dave P. Dave P. wrote:

Well,as I started this thread I suppose I'd better come clean.Davida open face for me.I feel that it affords me a better field of vision than a full face which I would find claustrophobic and isolating from my surroundings.


Very interesting, in that I don't remember having this problem. Have always used full face mostly to keep the weather out. Possibly the one I have now has a wider view visor, I think they're all much better these days than they were 30 - 40 years ago.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 00:19
PS: I also have "A friend who" story, many years ago he had a head-on with an oncoming car on his Gold Wing, 60 mph closing speed I think he said, him doing 55 mph past some minor roadworks, car doing 5 mph, a policeman waving a torch leaps out in front of my friend, my friend locked up everything and assumed he'd simply sweep plod away with him down the road, but no instead bike jumped lanes into path of oncoming car. Broke several teeth by his demolishing the fairing screen with his head, but as he said "if I hadn't got a full face on f*** knows what would have gone on."


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I have an open face for commuting to work in summer.  But if Im going any speed, always full face.

I aint pretty but I don't need the tarmac to make me any uglier!
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Full face for me, I can't stand exposure to the elements with the open face. The flip however, has its perks though, especially on tours. Full face still my first choice.
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Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

Wait till you need varifocals.....


I do. Believe it or not my left eye is fitted with a lens for reading and the right one for distance. You'd think it would lead to terrible migraines and lack of depth perception but it mostly seems to work. 

I don't waste my money going to 3D films at the cinema though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TooJuicy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 10:09
I have open face and full face helmets. Some things are wrong, plain wrong, and it's futile to mount a defence for what we do. I wear a leather biker jacket WITHOUT armour , so I am not in any position to cast a stone. But

as I see it motorcyclists, and their helmet choice, can be put into 2 broad groups: In-patients, and Out-patients.

I've belonged to both in my time.

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" In-patients , and Out-patients " Love it !!
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Originally posted by cyclobutch cyclobutch wrote:

Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

Wait till you need varifocals.....


I do. Believe it or not my left eye is fitted with a lens for reading and the right one for distance. You'd think it would lead to terrible migraines and lack of depth perception but it mostly seems to work. 




That sounds really weird. I like the varifocal glasses as I can still see the instruments / map in the tank bag while keeping good distance vision. I think I would find your setup disorienting.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ranton_rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 12:40
Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

Originally posted by cyclobutch cyclobutch wrote:

Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

Wait till you need varifocals.....


I do. Believe it or not my left eye is fitted with a lens for reading and the right one for distance. You'd think it would lead to terrible migraines and lack of depth perception but it mostly seems to work. 




That sounds really weird. I like the varifocal glasses as I can still see the instruments / map in the tank bag while keeping good distance vision. I think I would find your setup disorienting.
I had a similar contact lens set-up before I switched to multi-focal. I think the opticians call it mono-vision. It worked really well until my eyes got a bit worse with age and then the difference got too great to cope with.
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Basically you can recount horror stories of missing faces till the cows come home and yes it is possible. It is also possible to end up paralysed, lose a leg, arm or two, massive internal injuries etc etc. If you ride a bike you're taking a risk. I rode helmet less back in the day, when I felt like it. I have open and full face helmets and have not used my full face for a year or more. You can smell the roses, (and the cow sh*t!) feel the wind in your face and see much better. Riding a bike is about freedom and enjoyment and I enjoy it this way. I have been riding 47 years and still have my face. You pays your money and makes your choice. Going to Germany in the Spring open faced. Done Europe likewise.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iansoady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 15:06
Agree 100% (but I have an extra couple of years on you!)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave P. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 15:31
I too fully agree with jmee54.Some "sensible" people will tell you that riding a motorcycle is foolish because it doesn't afford you the same protection as a car.Ho hum..........

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I agree that we’re basically choosing to do something a bit dangerous and it’s down to personal choice. I’ve always worn full face or flip, almost always with the front down, only occasionally lifting it if it’s really hot and I’m going slow. When I started riding, open faced we’re old fashioned and for old codgers on mopeds. Having tried with the flip up, I find it very exposing to the elements and it just feels dangerous. I’m probably more protective of my face than most of my other bits!   However, when I started riding, it was also all jeans and cheap leather jackets. I wear a half decent textile in winter, but other than that make little concession to safety clothes wise. I guess it’s mostly just what you are used to!
My Breva isn’t as pretty as, say, a V7, but I think any Guzzi tends to encourage you to be a bit retro, so next summer I may well try something open faced.
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Hmm got an Arai open for hot sunny dayz, a Caberg flip cos I like the inner visor BUT on long runs the Arai full face ..... truth is the Arai full is way cooler than the open one the Caberg is good but noisy ...got a pinlock inner for the Arai full face with photo chromatic ..... brilliant .... tried the super flip from shark but way too heavy ..... ...Having tried every combination as has Annie on any run more than 10 miles ...we both reach for the Arai full face ...light ...comfy cooler in Summer warm in Winter ...oh I added one of the neoprene base screens makes it quieter ...the lightness really matters a lot on any run
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iceni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2017 at 07:24
I never gave much thought to the weight of a helmet until my daughter in law who's a nurse in intensive care recently mentioned the effect of a heavy helmet on the neck in the event of an accident. Obviously, the lighter the better, but I have to confess that, probably rather stupidly, up to now I've bought mainly on price. Trouble is, no matter how many times you try a hat on in the shop, you could pay £400 and then, when it's too late, discover it doesn't suit, so it can be an expensive gamble. What's the old saying? £100 hat / £100 head
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