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Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

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+1 but not altogether happy with this one (my second Caberg flip front)
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What's up with it Chris?
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Bit noisier and less comfortable than the previous one. This on is supposed to be the updated version of the first one, (can't remember model designation offhand). Somehow, the first one flitted better and seemed less noisy. Maybe all in my increasingly feeble mind of course!
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My usual helmet, (a present,) is an LS2 flip front, which is ok but I find looking over the shoulder to be more or less, a waste of time, as vision is restricted, consequently I bought a NOS Nolan "combi" helmet to try. It comes with a removable chin guard and has a full face visor, so in theory has the benefit of both OF and FF (that means FULL FACE, Tarquin -NOT what YOU are thinking), helmets. The removable chin guard is quite well constructed, with metal fittings which lock into place securely, but I doubt it would protect the wearer as well as a dedicated FF unit. That said, I prefer the open face; vision is much better, especially when doing the "life saver" and I like the fact that it's far less restrictive, but am well aware of the shortcomings in the event of a nasty. Choice is a many splendoured thing
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Several kinds that I seem to have accumulated over the years. I must admit that in my younger years – err, just one week after passing my test in fact, I went for a big one and if it hadn’t been for my wearing a full face I’d have left most of my good looks smeared across the tarmac. I suffered broken cheeks as it was.

My favourite hat is a Davida pudding - lovely and light and with great visibility. Best if you are behind a screen though, particularly in inclement conditions. And I’ve yet to crash test it. I also have a Shark flip front which gets occasional use – longer distances with no screen. I broke the last one when I flipped a KTM out in Morocco – saved my noggin though. Also a Bell open face which is a lousy fit but I got it cheap and like the green metalflake swirly pattern, that gets local ride outs on my 70s Kawa H1 – ‘Brown’.   

For crash protection I'm happy to accept that some times you just have to ride your luck.

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I’ve worn a flip for years but since getting the Guzzi I keep finding myself looking at open faced. Which is just silly!
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Open face. I tried full face and felt so claustrophobic I'd give up riding rather than wear it.

For many years I stuck with helmets like Davidas (beautifully made) and Mark VIIIs but now prefer a visor which works much better than the goggles with glasses especially in the rain. Currently a Nitro 512 which fits very well (crucial), seems well made and didn't cost a lot.

As far as I'm concerned, comfort is the top priority for any riding gear. If I have to spend 15 minutes getting dressed up then can't walk around when I get off the bike it starts to be too much hassle.
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And I gave up with glasses - they are particularly bad this time of year. Contacts all the way.
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Wait till you need varifocals.....

Glasses are fine with an open face helmet and visor. I use Rain-X anti-mist (not to be confused with original Rain-X) that is excellent for stopping misting.

Although I have to admit I choose to ride in the rain rarely these days.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Keef Mayhem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 17:34
I wear both types but must admit my first choice for the last few years has been an open face,
Currently a Shoei J-Cruise, a really good peice of kit, visor is very deep so quiet with no drafts, the built in sunvisor is optically clear and easy to use, I use it a lot, and the ventialtion really works :-)

As you can tell I'd buy another tomorrow if I needed one :)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ianboydsnr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 18:06
Originally posted by DavieL DavieL wrote:

Hot n sunny = open face
Cold and/or wet = full face


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ranton_rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 18:24
Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

Wait till you need varifocals.....

Glasses are fine with an open face helmet and visor. I use Rain-X anti-mist (not to be confused with original Rain-X) that is excellent for stopping misting.

Although I have to admit I choose to ride in the rain rarely these days.
Depends on the glasses and the helmet. I can't wear glasses with my Davida, but I do with the Shark Evoline. The latter is a flip-front, but I nearly always ride with the chin bar folded over to the back. It is homologated to ride open or closed unlike some flip-fronts.

I do wear vari-focal glasses and also have multi-focal contact lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nab301 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 20:26
I've worn full face helmets since I started biking in the late 70's.   Shoei generally in recent years but my most recent helmet is a K5S AGV and the older is a Shoei Qwest.
I find flip front helmets are way too heavy and cause chronic neck pain.
With regard to  open / full face helmets  an acquaintance of mine related a story where his bike suffered a  tyre blow out with a pillion on board . The pillion had a full face  helmet and the rider did and  still does wear an open face helmet.  They both suffered different types of accidents from the same incident but were advised by medical personnel that they both had the best  helmet type for  their own accident . That is, if the rider had been wearing a full face and the pillion an open face the outcome might not of been good.
I believe the chin bar on a full face helmet can snag on kerbs and the like causing potential neck/spine damage . 
It's probably best to wear whatever you're most comfortable with day to day because we can never determine what type accident we may have and which helmet type may be the best on any given day.

 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote English Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 20:28
Same as Iceni with the Nolan removable chin bar which incidentally , offers a really good field of view .
Only niggle with it is the chunky car-seat buckle fastening directly under my throat . D-ring way better.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote GU221 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 23:37
Open face. Love 'em. Davidas have just become legal in Oz, so must get one.

But I very rarely wear an open face, unless I'm just pottering around on a short trip. Why? The sun is too fierce..   ski cancer...    insects...    For the past 7 years i've mostly worn flip-lids. A Shark Evo, then a Nolan. It gives you the option of riding with it up or down. I had a big tumble 4 years ago, and ended up with a huge scratch on my chin piece. There, I thought, is the end of this argument. No more open face riding.

However it didn't occur to me until recently that it was highly likely that I was riding with the chin piece UP! 

2 months ago I bought a new Aldi full face. Perfect fit, and too cheap to pass up. Thank God I was wearing it when I rode through those clouds of locusts last Friday.
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