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well having run the bike for a fair few miles the 5k ish oil changes seem to work I do have external oil filter on the v1000 but I do drop the sump every other oil change never had sludge in it tho' but then I guess it will depend on use age the V1000 gets a run out on back rds and dual carriageways on the work commute and plenty of long runs to rallies
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote vendetta761 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2014 at 19:24
OK, thanks all, I got some Comma EP 90 and some Molyslip today, will keep searching for some local stockists of 20/50 mineral oil before I get some millers off the tinter web.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 00:12
Oh wait you already noted Millers...
   
   
Note to self ~ must finish reading others' posts before replying
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 11:44
I used 10W40 all year round in the SPIII, including in the south of France in a heat wave. Never had a problem. Maybe if you have worn bearing shells.
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Halfords stock Millers and Wilko's have a 20/50 oil that is within spec for the older bikes Tesco and all the big superstores often have Castrol on offer too
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 16:11
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

I used 10W40 all year round in the SPIII, including in the south of France in a heat wave. Never had a problem. Maybe if you have worn bearing shells.
I have a suspicion that my motor is 'well used'. Big smile
Certainly when I had the Spada it wasn't too happy with 20/50, so I had to get some thinner Castrol 'Grand Prix' from Halfords, (only available in 2 litre cans), this was back in the days when virtually all engine oils were 20/50.
In hindsight, possibly GTX would have done as well.
I know that in last year's heatwave going to the V-twin it sounded like there was indeed the proverbial gnat's pee circulating around, and the oil light coming on at idle.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 19:22
Certainly if you get the oil light flickering at idle, you need to make a change, that switch operates at very few psi.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 21:38
Yes I was considering finding a grocer's, buying a bunch of bananas and stuffing them in the sump LOL
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Originally posted by Ken-Guzzibear Ken-Guzzibear wrote:

trans needs to be EP 90 buddy
   
Was just reminded of something after riding out to branch meeting yesterday.
  
When I was using the EP90 (without additive, BTW), after a good run the bevel box would always be too hot to touch.
   
Since I've been using the 85W-140 plus molyslip, in exactly the same circumstances, I can put my hand fully on it and keep it there. About the temperature of a 15 minutes old mug of tea.
   
Must mean something! Big smile
   
Draw your own conclusions....
   
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My conclusion is the same, and I always use Molyslip, as it said to use it back in 1975, good enough for me.
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Well I guess the proof is in the riding do what you like really it is one of those subjects BUT in the V1000 the recent refurb got the rings replaced and clutch, I have used a base 20/50 oil for the majority of the time any diversion to "better" semi synth oil had it oozing out all over the place. In the bevel box it has been the Hypoy ep90 with moly at the specified level measured in not using the level plug , when new oil in run it for 10-20 miles undo the filler plug and burp it, stops oil getting by the seal. I tend to add the rest of the moly to the gearbox or the additive recommended by Nigel at NBS IF you use the red shock oil there is no need for moly in the gearbox . The engine and certainly gearbox is smooth always has been
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Originally posted by Mike H Mike H wrote:

Originally posted by Ken-Guzzibear Ken-Guzzibear wrote:

trans needs to be EP 90 buddy
   
Was just reminded of something after riding out to branch meeting yesterday.
  
When I was using the EP90 (without additive, BTW), after a good run the bevel box would always be too hot to touch.
   
Since I've been using the 85W-140 plus molyslip, in exactly the same circumstances, I can put my hand fully on it and keep it there. About the temperature of a 15 minutes old mug of tea.
   
Must mean something! Big smile
   
Draw your own conclusions....
   
Big smileI use the 85/140 plus molyslip in all my bikes now for gearbox and bevel box .My bikes seem happy with this plus me two 1100s love 10/60  keeps the oil looking new when it comes to change of oil . sad but true I enjoy oil threadsBig smile
 
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  "Guzzi do know what they are doing re oil and gearbox oil recommendations they have spend many years doing their research and for the Tonti bikes many recommendations for the oil and additive were found so the bikes could cover large miles with only regular servicing so they could get the Police and other agency orders in many Countries ...I read this somewhere ages ago it might have been on a forum or a book might even be Guzziology BUT I have kinda stuck to it. I know , like other things all sorts of things are said BUT the moly works as does the recommended oils , OK Fully synth MAY be utterly amazing BUT not made for Tonti Guzzis at all heck the Jap bikes rev to what 14000 I know the Honda VFR750 did not light up until after 7-8000 rpm at that a Guzzi would be very unhappy indeed.
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Originally posted by Mike H Mike H wrote:

Me, at the mo 20/50 mineral (from Asda); Comma 85W/140 for transmission (1 ltr bottle does both). 10cc Holts 'double-strength' molyslip in gearbox and 5cc in final drive.
 
Could Mike, or anybody else ,  help me out a bit here regarding the 'double strength' Moly?
 
I am about to change all the oils in the bike and my Molyslip is 'Double Concentrate', for the bevel box it states 230cc of oil and 20cc of Moly, so a total of 250cc of lubricant, now with the Moly being double concentrate I take it I would only put in 10cc, so if I do that should I use 240cc of oil to bring it up to the 250cc total?
 
Sorry if that sounds a bit of a daft question, but I'd rather get it correct.
 
Also is it worth putting a bit in the gearbox, if so how much?
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