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    Posted: 15 May 2019 at 10:14
Yesterday having taken my Monza wheels to be powder coated I was returning home on the M62 when I came up behind what was obviously an old bike with original metal number plate (black and silver). Window down I drew along side for a look only to be met by the wonderful sound of a 1000 Vincent in extremely well restored condition. The `gentleman` rider was sporting leather coat and Hailwood replica dome helmet with leather sides and old RAF style goggles, this absolutely made my day.
A thumbs up from me drew the same back from the rider and I continued on my way with a smile on my face similar to the one he was sporting.

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Must have been something wrong with it if you passed it!
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Can't say that I understand the adoration that some makes have acquired. Vincent, Goldstars, etc., all fine machines in their time but not really as good as the myths that have grown up around them. Go to Brands in the 1960s and you could hardly move for Goldies in various states of repair, their owners often easily identified by missing front teeth as a result of connection with the steering damper knob. Vincents or Panthers were for old blokes looking for something to drag around a double adult side car loaded with the wife and kids at the weekend.

Back before the invention of the "classic" motorcycle many of these revered objects were actually in common use. 1969, and I was involved in an AJS/truck interface not far from home. The result was slightly damaged me and a pair of bent forks. The bike was collected by an old bloke from a bike shop on the Goldhawk Road, now yet another posh purveyor of "classic" motorcycles, but then just a motorbike shop. Did he have a van? No, it was an old Vincent twin with a plank sidecar modified to carry bikes.

Some years ago I met a bloke at Sunbury Cross who was riding the ratiest Vincent I'd seen in years. I asked him if he intended restoring it and his reply contained a reference to sex and travel. I took that as a no. I've just bought a 45 year old motorcycle. Although it's in a pretty sound, useable condition my expectations of it's performance and reliability are realistic. It certainly won't live up to it's 1970's reputation but then we were all more heroic back then!Cry
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I don't have a problem with adoration, but I do have a problem with some of the prices.
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I agree about the prices. And I never understand why a Goldie is "worth" three times as much as a B33 which is essentially much the same bike but far more useable. My ES2 is valued at around £7,000; a very similar International would be north of £20,000 for a bike which in reality wouldn't be much faster (but much oilier).

The other day I caught up with a programme about a classic car auction company on the Yesterday TV channel called Bangers & Mash (actually quite good without the usual "banter"). A completely rotten Mini Cooper S fetched nearly £20,000. It needed a complete new shell at the very least.


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But it had the "Cooper S" badge on the back. LOL Can you not get a Chinese copy of the badge cheaper than that?

More money than sense around in some parts.

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I personally think it all went pear shaped when old bits of kit became seen as investments rather than transport. The car in Ian's post is nothing special unless it had some particular historical significance, millions of them were made. You might as well start hoarding and restoring old Hoovers! Talking to the folk I bought the bike from I got the  distinct impression than many of those they sell are more likely to end up in the front room than the garage. Mine won't unless it's used to rest my coffin on!LOL
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True, it's the "investment" market that spoiled it.

Just look at the old tat going on that auction site, with telephone numbers where the price should be.

But at the same time, I've thrown out loads of old tat in the past which now would be worth a small fortune. Crazy.
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And that's why most of us don't live in St. Georges Hill!
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Talking about more money than sense.


Would you pay £4500 for one bottle of wine? Even the £260 they thought they were having is stupid.
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I don't think the Mini had any history, and if I remember correctly had even lost the "S" off the back although it was a genuine 1275 (apparently) although I have a feeling the 1071 version is even rarer....

It's easy enough to make an ordinary Mini perform as well as a Cooper S for a few hundred quid.

Another edition of the programme had a very nice chrome bumper MGB GT sell for £2,100 which is a far more sensible price and a nicer car to boot.
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Although the Vincent made me smile (probably envy) I was more pleased to see that another old bike had been saved from the scrap heap and was obviously giving the rider great enjoyment.
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[QUOTE=c13pep]Although the Vincent made me smile (probably envy) I was more pleased to see that another old bike had been saved from the scrap heap and was obviously giving the rider great enjoyment.
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With the emphasis on being ridden.
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