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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2017 at 21:59
Yes camera vans notwithstanding, Wales can be brilliant, used to go there lots. Anglesey was often an annual visit.

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Thanks to all. I have googled around a bit about the police, and... it will be Cornwall. 
 
I am frankly not interested in how friendly the village policeman is. I have never been ticketed for speed (never; not once) in 12 years in this country, and the idea of getting a ticket because of a 31mph in a village, or because a horse trailer is trying to catch me out makes my blood pressure rise, which is not healthy at my age ;). 

What I have noticed in England up to now is that traffic enforcement is mostly intelligent. They don't try to catch you out, and no one is interested if in an isolated road you open the throttle a bit more. 

Being able to enjoy the ride without the constant menace of the strictest enforcement is, to me, more important than Wales. What was posted about the cameras making "overtime" in summer (where, ahem, the tourists are there) is also indicative. 

Thanks but no, thanks. No hooligan here. I just cannot stand this kind of mentality and it is clear to me that the constant attention to the single mph and the possibility that every van or horse trailer (!!!) can be a trap would be enough to ruin my biking holiday anyway. 

Even in Switzerland there are tolerances and more common sense than what I have read here; and boy, they can be thick. 

Cornwall it is, then.  I have examined the Yorkshire Dales, but then I decided that I am just more curious to explore Cornwall. 

I am planning to write a daily blog like I did for the Lake District, so you will know in detail how I liked it... ;) 

Thanks to all again. It was extremely useful information.  

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Each to their own as they. I have never bothered to go back to Cornwall, but I have been literally hundreds of times to Wales, north, mid and south. Never been ticketed for speeding either, but there again I don't consciously speed although I recognise our attention does lapse occasionally. Wales is much more diverse in every way too, mind although I have never lived there, I am half welsh so perhaps I should declare a certain bias enjoy wherever you go, but one thing you can be sure of, a lot more traffic in Cornwall!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote magwa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 09:43
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:


The police are only your enemy if you make them that by being stupid on the road.


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You really ought to try Cornwall in July or August. Absolutely no chance of getting a speeding ticket as the roads are totally gridlocked with caravans and the average speed is about 4 mph.
 
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Cornwall is wonderful as a holiday destination, really great, but the riding’s better in Wales. Just be sensible and you don’t get a ticket. No need to worry any more about it there than anywhere else.
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:


You really ought to try Cornwall in July or August. Absolutely no chance of getting a speeding ticket as the roads are totally gridlocked with caravans and the average speed is about 4 mph.
 


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Scottish Highlands would be my choice over Cornwall every time.

Great roads, and not busy.

Cornwall looks lovely but it's way too popular for my liking.
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Scottish highlands and the west coast are indeed fantastic. Just a long way from me. Last time I went up to Applecross on a bike -late 80's i guess it must be, we were sphincter twitching close to running out of fuel. It was a long way between fuel stations. Luckily the pub we stopped at at the end of the road on the coast had a petrol pump and after the Barman/host poured our drinks and took our food order, he took my keys and went and filled the tank. Talk about service! I can't remember what we had to eat other than he had caught it out on the loch that afternoon. Superb.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote magwa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 12:50
Cornwall great and with all the narrow lanes with high hedges mean you don't see anything either
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to each his (or her ) own

I always think it's funny won't visit a particular location for an alleged attitude by people they haven't even met


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Originally posted by V7Chris V7Chris wrote:

Scottish highlands and the west coast are indeed fantastic. Just a long way from me. Last time I went up to Applecross on a bike -late 80's i guess it must be, we were sphincter twitching close to running out of fuel. It was a long way between fuel stations. Luckily the pub we stopped at at the end of the road on the coast had a petrol pump and after the Barman/host poured our drinks and took our food order, he took my keys and went and filled the tank. Talk about service! I can't remember what we had to eat other than he had caught it out on the loch that afternoon. Superb.



The fuel situation up there is a lot worse now Chris.

If I'm on the Cali, I take a spare fuel container but on the Pan I have a 300 mile range so it's not an issue .

On the Guzzi, if I'm touring, once I get about 100 miles done I usually just fill up again because as you say , worrying about running out of petrol spoils the ride.
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Does anyone remember the Border Collie at the Applecross pub which used to delight in catching pool balls in its' mouth just as they were about to go into a pocket? The last time I was there, there was a photo on the wall of him/her placed in memory of the wee scunner.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote v7john Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 17:10
Just read this thread.

As far as I know, all the fixed and mobile speed cameras throughout Wales are operated by Go Safe Wales.https://gosafe.org/ which is a partnership made up of all the local authorities and all the Welsh police forces. They adhere to the National NPCC Guidelines which means the thresholds are the same throughout Wales as for England ie the 10%+2 business.

Of course the rules for the whole of the UK are that you can be done for going 1mph over the limit if that's what a copper decides but we're not talking about "safety" cameras then. It's always been like that.

It might be true to say that in North and Mid-Wales you are more likely to be stopped while out on your bike for a routine vehicle check. The Police and the locals are pretty fed up with riders treating the roads as "Race Track Wales".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 19:27
Originally posted by v7john v7john wrote:

It might be true to say that in North and Mid-Wales you are more likely to be stopped while out on your bike for a routine vehicle check.


Yes I was.

Omobono seems to think the camera vans are disguised or hidden, they are not. They are obviously what they are same as rest of UK.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kateguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 09:22
They have had them in horse trailers in the past.....myself I have not yet fallen foul of the North Wales force....but Mr Brunstroms views are documented....that said...it has never put me off....
Come to think of it...tis nearly 10 years since I had a ticket....bloody amazing given the way I ride !
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