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    Posted: 27 Sep 2018 at 23:32
Just bought a used 2004 V11 Stone with hydraulic lifters and don't know if the recall has ever been performed on this bike. Don't know if there even is one for this bike. Anybody know anything about this recall and if I can still get it done if even required? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 10:19
Recalls should be done if required regardless of age.

The only way to be sure is to contact a Guzzi dealer and quote the VIN. They should be able to tell you if any work has been done and if a recall is outstanding.

From memory only, if the correct grade of oil was used there were no problems with many hydraulic lifters. I seem to remember that one US dealer had no problems with the bikes they serviced because they did use the correct grade of oil, which is thinner than the more usual specification.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote c13pep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 11:03
There`s also the DVSA recall tool on their website which lists all official recalls and the reason, but as Brian says only the dealer network will list any work carried out on a specific vin number. However Guzzi don`t have a very good record with regard to historical records

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 13:21
That won't help someone over the pond.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jefrs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 13:33
Hydraulic lifters are fitted to most cars. That means they're tried and tested technology; they're usually faultless.  All they really need is good oil, regular oil changes on service; they can jam if crud gets into the little valve but they tend to clear themselves out when they're whacked by the cam.

Did Guzzi have a problem with the actual lifters or was it more a problem with the whole valve train?

Enfield EFI hydraulic lifters run in 15W-50, they're pretty much idiot proof.
Why do Guzzi mostly run in heavy 60-weight oil?
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The problem with the 'hydros' was real.  It took a while for Guzzi to get things right.  I had a 2005 model, by which time Guzzi had got things right.  I confirmed with Haywards in Cambridge that the recall wasn't needed on mine.  I would encouraged anyone with a hydro to check and get it done if necessary.  You may find this link helpful: http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/cal-1100-hydraulic-lifter-recall-info.13108/

I think Guzzibear had the recall done on his hydro; he may have more information.

As well as taking care to use the correct oil, I also kept the revs up around 3000rpm in the hope that this would help keep the oil pressure up, i.e. I didn't lug the engine.
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As far as I can tell from the small pics, there is a modification to the rocker arms. Were the push rods replaced as will, with the hydraulic lifters which are generally part of the rod? 
The Guzzitech thread does not describe the fault in any detail. Do we know more about what was wrong with the hydraulic lifters? I am puzzled because quite honestly they are very simple tech., and the modification to the rockers appear quite serious, as if there was some alignment problem which may have necessitated replacing the push rods due to the change to the rockers.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2018 at 08:13
Yes they are relatively simple tech, but we are talking about Guzzi here. LOL

I'm believe some of the problem was down to dealers putting the same oil in them which they had "always used on Guzzis".

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2018 at 18:13
Yes if memory serves, they "locked up" because oil was wrong viscosity. Something like that.

Meaning, they wouldn't self adjust, just be solid.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2018 at 22:24
That sounds right Mike. The oil had to be thinner than normally used on Guzzis.
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