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This is one of the last photos that I had taken before I retired.

I'm holding the 30mph sign



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I’m not that interested in whether police people come tattooed or not. Get to see quite a lot of them wandering around up the Smoke – some even on horses still. The only ones I get at home are racing up my road in their cars at stupidly dangerous speeds and with all of the flashy lights on.

Sadly, in my adult life very few of my encounters with the occasional police person that I have come across or appealed to for assistance have left me in any way impressed. And I’m no crim.

Supposed to be servants of the people aren’t they?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jul 2018 at 18:55
Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

This is one of the last photos that I had taken before I retired.

I'm holding the 30mph sign




That would have been taken back in the 30's then.

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Brian, check my date of birth on here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote V7Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jul 2018 at 19:15
Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Brian, check my date of birth on here.
Well you did say you were in the RFC for 40+ years before you were a bobby!
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Correct Chris and I'm pleased that you remembered as I often don't.

Sgt Hay pictured next to me had a tattoo, it was a rose on his derriere.


RLO told me that he had seen it.
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Originally posted by V7Chris V7Chris wrote:

This is how police officers should look


Except of course he never was a police officer.
but he was a fine driver  in the Royal Flying Corp, and a bit tasty behind the wheel at brooklands

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BobV7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2018 at 00:31
Didn't take too long to find out that Dixon was pure fiction. In 1960's London coppers forgot who paid their wages and were not known for a tolerant public relations approach. At that time West End Central staff carpark looked more like a Jaguar showroom. I'm not saying they were all bent but my first encounter with a young PC suggested they were and that stuck. Having quietly put up my hands to the terrible crime of having a passenger on the pillion while sporting "L" plates, the little sh*t lied his head off in court and cost me my job. Stuff like that doesn't go away and a few experiences over the years has done nothing to make me think anything has changed.
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I got done as an 18 year old on the word of an off duty transport copper. Sat with the engine off at a bascule bridge. He stood in court and said that I repeatedly revved the bike against the barrier, then rode round it when the other side barrier opened. I got done £20 plus my solicitor fees. I went to court 'cos I foolishly thought the law was honest and fair. The knock on effect of this put me 4 years behind on promotion which effectively cut my wages for the rest of my career.

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I once met a PC Valentine who was an officious chap looking to further his career in the city of London , I ended up in court, paid the fine and took the endorsments
I thought he was a bit of a prig, but I learnt from it

later on I got stopped by a bike cop  on the then new south circular, about 30 motorcyclists were pulled in with me, the copper was polite, and when I asked him why I had been pulled he explained that this lot of morons in front of me had been riding like idiots cutting people up and threatening members of the public, so they got the old stop and check routine,  and a vehicle inspector nicked them for anything not 100 percent

3 day later I got pulled again and and in front of me were another lot of gobsh*tes
same copper, he was dead nice and said just sit here for a minute and chat and you will be on your way, that way they cant say they have been targeted

in chatting he told me why I was pulled and what they looked for, and why several motorcyclists went past without being stopped
I took his kind advice, got rid of the oil leaking rattly bolt  shedding triumph to a breaker, got a small loan and bought a nice motorcycle, a BMW twin

not been stopped since other than for routine checks
the police force are like every other organisation
you get the ones that do the work
the ones who want promotion
the ones lacking manners or intelligence but make up the numbers
and the odd weirdo who slips past the system
and the majority who are normal decent people
and dont forget sometimes they have a bad day, either at home, or in dealing with the loudmouth, self important ignorant members of the public, and those cheerfull jolly fellows in white transit vans and picks up



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2018 at 16:33
I've only once had cause todoubt the honesty of the police. I was riding down from Scotland on my Commando, been to an NOC Scottish rally where wer had local  Police come and check us out, also on Commandos. They were excellent, we helped one with his bike.
But on the way home, north of Carlisle, before the M74 was around, I was with a mate who had dropped back a bit. On a long sweeping bend I saw him about half a mile behind, and saw he had a cop car behind him. I had been travelling around 70 which at that time was legal. But I slowed down willing my mate to do the same.
Eventually he caught up and we were both stopped. My mate was accused of doing 80 to 85, and he turned to me and said "and you must have been doing 75 to 80". Single young copper in the car.
Well I later got a summons for speeding. At no time did he ever follow me at my speed, but the court was in carlisle, I lived n London. To get there to defend myself plus get my mate there as a witness was too expensive.
Had it been a few miles north it couldn't have happened as in Scotland there had to be two police officers present to confirm speeding.
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I have to say, the PC I/C accident investigation when I was knocked off was V. good, he went the extra mile even rang the coroner to say I wasn't up to attending the inquest as the deceased' family were well known scummers who were blaming me for their dad being a prat. I wrote a letter to the chief Constable in the hope that it may help him along in his career, the pay packet is what matters
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Ive just retired after 30 years in the police in Ireland. Some of your stories here make me wince. I have seen colleagues act unprofessionally on occasion. The rule of thumb here is " a bollocking, a ticket, but not both". A bollocking AND a ticket is just totally unfair. We are 20 years behind UK colleagues in terms of equipment and training, and we are now so accountable, with at least three oversight quangos, that I am amazed anything gets done. I will say that the majority of my colleagues are fair-minded and give a break to decent people for minor transgressions. I am sure that UK colleagues, in the main, adopt the same outlook. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2018 at 18:52
I think that's probably generally true in the UK too, and agree that being over accountable for every move doesn't help anyone apart from those in higher places who are just protecting their own backsides.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote V7Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2018 at 20:17
As others have said, most police officers are decent, honest and helpful but they are bound to reflect the population they police - by and with the consent of the public.  I have had bad experiences too, but if you think the British and I daresay the Irish police are poor, then you really should get out more and see how the state police force in most countries behave!
On a lighter note, my wifes maiden name - who was a bobby for 26 years - was 'Bent '. Oh you can imagine how she laughed when the 10th member of public that day made a wisecrack about that.....
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