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    Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 18:37
what are peoples thoughts on hepco and becker hard luggage, good stuff or not worth the price or both
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Hepco and Becker is outstanding quality, better than anything else I have used including (in descending order) Trax, Sigma, Krauser and Givi.
 
Not perfectly waterproof (what pannier is?) and the bike-specific carriers for the T3/Spada are (IMHO) poorly designed as they put weight on the rear mudguard, likely causing factures, but they are excellent for the LMV and Quota.
 
These days I use soft luggage from Ortlieb which is much lighter and totally waterproof.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nab301 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 2018 at 21:12
My Breva 750 came with Hepco & Becker side cases  and top box , if  heavy means well built  , there's your answer LOL. I guess I'm not a fan of hard luggage  because I removed it soon after purchase and have been wondering what to do with them ever since...
I've just weighed the lot including the pannier frame but not the rear rack ( currently on the bike with a small top box) and it comes to about  15KG . The top box does have a natty steel rack on the lid  , a bit like I used to see on MGB boot lids back in the day.. 
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I have hepco and becker panniers
excellent
even protected the machine when I have dropped it ( a lot)
seem to be watertight
nice and secure
I have the smaller ones so I can whizz through gaps between obese German Motor cars
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I've got Hepco and Bekker frames and my own side cases, 1550 Peli cases, they are definately waterproof.
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How do people find the latches on the hard luggage? 

Several years ago I rented a bike with H&B hard luggage and the "hook & latch" catches were badly worn to the point of being a very loose fit. The rental company said all their H&B latches were similar and the company was adding packing material behind the latches to compensate for the wear. I imagine this wear depends on use. Also the latches I see on current H&B luggage looks a bit different than what I recollect from 10 years ago.

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mine are over centre catches, you have to slide the panniers into the frames quite hard, give them a heart bang with the fist to shove them forwards then over centre the catch
I think the early ones were a simple tongue that slotted in
early BMW bikes used to suffer the same problem and I modified mine with a kit from Motobins
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I really rate the Hepco and Becker luggage that came with my Cali.

Never had the slightest issue with it and it seems good quality.
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My comparison Hepco 43 litres on EV and Givi 45 litres on the V1000 the Givi panniers are now over 20 yrs old.

Right here we go Hepco expensive leak will just hold 1 Full Face lid been on the bike 3 yrs chrome rails are ok and are easier to fit as the EV has captured nuts there, you get a coloured panel that you can colour match. they look good on the bike, The fitment in my opinion not as good as Givi

Givi a lot less especially as you can get bags used and the wing racks you can make your own fitment brackets easily. The Givi universal fitting kit is awful do not waste your money. Totally waterproof and always have been.   The E43 litre takes 2 lids, The clip on to the frame is easy to use and works very well. They are not as pretty as the Hepco ones.

With both sets I always use 2" wide luggage straps around the cases and frame as I have seen all types of panniers come off a frame when loaded, often as they were not secured properly but still for the few quid and few seconds they are well worth it

I bought a 52 litre box for a top box ....they would be way too big as side boxes NB when Guzzi fit Givi or Hepco boxes they do not use the "wing" extensions for top box plate they fit the top plate to the oem rack so that the pannier rails can fit as low as possible.

With either type you have to measure the rail with box on so they do not hit passengers legs. On the EV Cali there are hidden captured nuts to mount the Hepco luggage with both remember to fit the rear brace that goes over or under the No plate

As always your bike your choice, with both have to say the Givi are a much better and dryer box But the Hepco look nicer ...given free choice for me Givi win due to better size and the waterproofing.
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I have not posted an advertisement yet but I am selling a Hepco & Becker "Luggage Rack Black With Grab Rails" for V7II Stone LUA65451. It will take H&B pannier frames. VGC (I need to take photos), no fittings (nuts and bolts got reused). They're £185 new ...

IMO very well made, typical german over-engineering. Grab rails not wide enough for wife's bottom. Had to replace it with the Moto Guzzi version.  

As for luggage, I'm afraid I dislike top boxes in all forms, always have; I strap a bag etc to the rack if I need to carry stuff. I don't do touring so I have no need for big solid panniers; I use small 12-litre leather saddlebags for the junk you have to have with you. They'll take a small bag of groceries, over-trousers, disc-lock, bungees. Not watertight but reasonably shower proof.   

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