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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave P. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 18:34
It wasn't until I saw the photo' which Mike posted that I realized that these are the same diabolical switches that I had on my 850T.They really were dire.In fact they were nowhere near as good as the Lucas items on my 64 T'Bird. Originality is all well and good but not if it's potentially dangerous.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 00:05
Indeed my memory also is that they were quite nasty to use. I remember years ago some wag in a magazine article about the LM quipping that the indicator switch movement "is seemingly measured in Angstroms", so short is it between on and off positions, that getting it into the middle can be a challenge. A couple of times the starter button on mine got rain water inside causing the starter motor to crash into the flywheel while riding, requiring a roadside stop with WD40.





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Well, I can see that you are all trying your hardest to put me off, but its too late - I won't listen to reason. I have got hold of some switches that do seem to work when I apply my multi metre to them. They all click back and forth crisply, and the even the awful light switch thingy rotates and clicks nice and loud when it finds its position. The next thing to do is to fit the buggers and wire them up.  Point taken about water getting in. I can see that the light switch in particular looks especially vulnerable. It amazes me that the factory could have thought that this sort of a set up was a good idea at the time.  Having said that, I did used to have one of these bikes back in the early 1980's and must have owned it for a couple of years or so. I do not recall the switches giving me the slightest problem, but of course I accept that others have had bad experiences. I think that this is going to have to be a dry weather bike, but hey - I only ever ride on nice sunny days anyway so that's alright then !
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I use them on my bike and they work ok for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheWrongTrousers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 18:18

On a related matter. See the photo above of a peculiar little metal wheel. On the parts list it seems to go between handlebar grip and left hand switch. Does any one know whether it has a function/whether I need fit it or should I bin it ?

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It keeps the switches in place, as the grip is rubber it will move but that washer keeps the switches in place.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheWrongTrousers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 18:48
Thanks for that vital info' Chris. I better go and fish it out of the bin then !. 

It has these spikes on it that are at an angle. Do the spiky bits face the rubber grip or the switch housing ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 22:29
Toward the rubber grip I think.

I recognise that it's a kind of spring clip, can't remember it's proper name, but what should happen is when you push it onto the bar it should be tight, then the teeth won't let it slide back again.

Ah yes apparently they're called starlock washers. Big smile (Google to the rescue.)



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They face the rubber grip as it is retaining the switches.
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Thanks for your help with this guys. 
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The star washer holds the switch together and points outwards. Ive got lots of pictures of how the switches gotogether including all the internal wiring from when I refurbed mine. To many to post on here so pm me and I can send them over.

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