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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FlyingTiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2018 at 22:17
Thanks for the feedback JerryTongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FlyingTiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 12:41

Hi chaps,

 Well I saw the beast last Saturday

 

Unfortunately I have failed to copy some pics onto my post despite them being under 400Kb and as I am doing this from work in my lunchtime I don't have access to the online photobucket but have the following info for you.

Still running on points

Still has linked brakes

Wiring / switches / fuse box all unadulterated and everything working well on the day

Charging was 17 volts at the gell battery on tick over.  Charging light goes out straight after fire up

As does oil light

Absolutely no noise from the UJ or bevel box using a stethoscopeamabob to listen with.  Apparently the bevel drive was refurbished only a few hundred miles ago (a few years that is – have seen pics of it apart but can’t say what was replaced etc.)

Engine fired up readily with fresh petrol and no untoward noises from ant part of the engine, just a nice steady rustling noise

It rides very smoothly over bumps and seems to handle quite well too.  Brakes smoothly but needing a firm hand to get much decent breaking on the front – the linked rear pedal was a lot better.  I expect a strip of the calipers would help a lot as would removing the rust from the discs.

Engine revs easily, but revs don’t die back that quick compared to a modern when changing gear but I guess that is normal with a tractor flywheel!  Probably could be improved with an ultrasonic carb clean and balance.

He still has the small front aerofoil thingys and probably the original front crash bars as well as other spares, including the airbox etc.

Foot controls are all in the right place, a little loose but that’s to be expected and work OK, although I would restore them to tighten them up.

Didn’t get chance to check the front engine bolt but I imagine it won’t come out without a fight.

The frame is well over painted in many areas by hand so very little rust, but really the whole thing could do with totally stripping and restoring, including the black wheels which look OK but are hand painted black and should be silver I think.

Seat base is solid and has a spare in reasonable nick

Clevis pin on the clutch seems visually OK and the adjusters look like they will be easy to adjust.  No oil leaks anywhere

 

 

 

 

In summary it seems a solid, genuine and honest bike that could just be ridden and toured on but I’m a bit of a perfectionist and would probably tear it to pieces and restore it which would come at a cost as usual.

Could I ask what a fair price would be please gents?

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Mark

 

 

 

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What's he asking? We can likely tell you if that's reasonable.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 13:40
Is 17 Volts a typo, that's way too high will blow bulbs and "boil" the battery (?)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave P. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 14:54
Originally posted by Mike H Mike H wrote:

Is 17 Volts a typo, that's way too high will blow bulbs and "boil" the battery (?)


Yep!! that arrested my attention too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 15:18
17 woke me up.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 15:24
I'm hoping he meant 12, otherwise that resoration will be a tad more expensive.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dan_s Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 16:38
17v is no surprise if it still has the original coil and spring regulator. Thses can fail to disconnect when voltage rises and not, regulate. That will toast the battery.
12v in not good either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FlyingTiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 16:53
Yep it was 17 - I expected you to be concerned so am glad you are.  I plan to check my multi-meter on my car battery just to be sure it is OK!
He is thinking its worth between £3-5k
 
I'm thinking £2.5k tops are am I way out?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dan_s Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 17:53
2500 is fair generally speaking but photos will help the distinguished folk here immensely to tell if it's indeed  so for this particular machine


Edited by dan_s - 03 Oct 2018 at 14:43
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 19:32
Any idea how old the battery is? The likelyhood is the regulator has failed having been laid up for some years, so if this was the first time the battery has been subjected to 17 volts it will probably be OK. But the age will also matter.
You can now get a solid state regulator which would be more reliable. Don't switch the lights on though, probably blow all the bulbs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 19:33
Below 3 sounds right to me. I'd offer £2.5K given the potential amount of work that you'd choose to be doing.

Only above £4K if it's faultless, clean and reasonably standard. £5K should get you something close to minty. IMO.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jerry atric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 20:21
I'd second that except that, apart from the possible voltage reg snag, I'd say£3k is OK, 2.5 is better though. Remember, an honest bike from a genuine seller is always a better bet than a sparkly item from a stranger.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FlyingTiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2018 at 07:03
Thanks for the advice guys.  The owner (who seems a genuine chap to be fair and he has had the bike 16 years) told me the gel battery was new so I did wonder if the old one had boiled to death.
 
I have opened the pics in paint and saved them as a jpeg.  They are114kb each but the text box doesn't want to know when I try and paste them in - any ideas please?
 
many thanks as always
 
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Post a url of the photos after you upload them to another service like google drive/photos
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