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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KIWIMIKE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep 2018 at 00:03
I'm sorry to hear of your Uncle's passing. He had good taste in motorcycles.
 
All the best with the sale if you decide to sell the LM. I'm sure someone through this forum would be keen.
 
 
Mike
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Previously owned the following:
1981 850 Le Mans Mk2
1980 CX100
1982 V50 Monza
1976 Laverda Jota
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rapheal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 11:34
if you are going to sell several motorcycles, my honest advice would be to enter them into an auction one that specialises in motorcycles and has the people who are experts to catalogue and ID the machines
several reasons for this
there are a few smooth talkers out in the world who will talk the price down and con you, then promptly list in on ebay at silly money with a wordy description
some private buyers are in fact dealers, they can be crafty as well

also the Auction house will list everything and put it in the catalogue
the tax man will have an interest in your late relatives motorcycles and the solicitor will have to list them for probate anyway
that way you wont get asked to pay a large sum in tax later on
the other reason I suggest this is FAMILIES
at some later date a person may turn up claiming part ownership of the collection, its happened many times before
putting it through an auctioneer keeps it all above board and provable
and you will get a better price
where money is concerned their is scope for people to fall out, even close families

here I speak from experience


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote GuzziPaul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 18:07
Although the receipt now proves it, another way ti identify a Le Mans is the switch gear, if it looks realy cheap and the left hand light switch rotates around the handlebar, it's likely to be an original Le Mans. Although MKII switchgear is not much better and a lot of owners upgrade on both bikes, the MK1 switchgear is about £150 a side and rare, its unusual for a MKII to MK1 conversion to change the switchgear to the original version.

When I got my 2nd Le Mans from Ebay that's one thing I looked for in the photographs, original switchgear, before placing a bid.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bucket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Dec 2018 at 12:50
Hi 
I have ve 17774 
Several sources tell me it is a genuine mk1 after examining pictures I’ve provided to them of components 
It’s widly believed  that frame numbers run up to ve 18146 with  7036 being produced
Ian falloon quotes  “Some discrepancy in the frame numbers” this is both the mk1 and mk11 I would  assume that ve17311 was just the last one off the production line ,frames where built in batches but not necessarily assembled in numerical order allowing for earlier bikes to have higher frame numbers 
The frame numbers for the mk11 also run above the quoted amount where there cannot be any lemonizing it’s very clear  that the factory quoted numbers just cannot be correct 
I would like to see a copy of the original receipt and docs if possible just for some clarity 
Andy 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Beza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 2020 at 20:43
Hi,looking at some old posts,think it was around 2018,concerning your late build MK1 le man's,you seemed to have good proof that it was indeed a MK1 and I have the same thoughts about the one I have,purchased recently,you said yours was 17685 and I have 17695, I obviously went into this issue before I bought it and so did the person I bought it from and in all areas like yours it definitely is a genuine MK1, for all the same reasons you said with yours, correct tank, forks, yolks, center stand indicator mounts, instruments,idiot lights,wiring loom etc, interestingly the guy I bought it from got it from the family of the old gentleman that had it from new,the bike had been off the road since the 90's and there is no way you would thought ofmaking a MK2 look like a MK1 back then,have you still got it or did you sell it,any proof you found of late build MK1's would be if interest to me,cheers,ian
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guzzioz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2021 at 07:16
Hi, I find this interesting, you guys have 17685 and 17695, I have 17675 here in Australia, picked it up from a guy in Northern Territory a few years ago, missing quite a few parts. I'm pretty confident it has always been a Mk2 but they are an old bike and anything could have happened. Is there something more definitive to tell other than yokes, forks and instruments, wiring loom maybe?

Update - Having educated myself through the other forum, I will rebuild my bike to a MK1 series 2 with a round headlight and fairing, square tail light etc.  Now realising it is not a MK2 at all, I will have few MK2 spares to get rid of, thanks for all the input.

Nope - I just don't know, maybe it is a MK2, I think I will pay and get a certificate from MG to clarify


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