guzziriders.org - moto guzzi forum Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Technical > Big Block Tonti
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - What type of lifer? 82 Spada
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

What type of lifer? 82 Spada

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
johnc2435 View Drop Down
Falcone
Falcone


Joined: 26 Sep 2019
Location: Swansea UK
Status: Offline
Points: 54
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnc2435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: What type of lifer? 82 Spada
    Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 15:35
Well from looking at a Lemans 2 I ended up buying a silvery blue 82 Spada.

Its a very tidy bike which has usual 38 year old cosmetic bits and bobs, switchgear etc to do, which new owners fix and old owners live with. However what took me by surprise was the general bulk and weight. It's a big old bike! You forget how big old bikes were after a few years not having one.

My question is for both maintinance of restoration. being a big bike what are the prefered options for jacking and lifting?

To everyone with a bike lift or table. How often do you adjust the height during work or restoration? or do you have a happy height and a stool to sit on? and what is that height about?. I am trying to work out if I can make a table from the things I have in the garage, or whether I would find a fixed-ish height table a hinderance.

Also can you jack up on the sump using one of those hydraulic lifts or scissor lifts? I am just wondering about removing wheels etc?

Whatis everyones trusted lifting tools? I dont want to reinvent the wheel or damage my new ( to me) bike.

Thanks
john
Someone who fixes thing that have broken, and enjoys things that haven't
Back to Top
c13pep View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 31 Aug 2017
Location: Doncaster
Status: Offline
Points: 2110
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote c13pep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 15:49
I have a hydraulic bench which I couldn`t manage without now, whereas my son in law has a fixed table but getting the bikes on and off it is a proper nightmare something which I couldn`t manage. Working with the bench is easy and I often adjust the height depending on what I`m doing. The bench also allows me to jack up under the sump even at height, but in this case I use a hydraulic scissor lift as seen at motocross circuits. My bench has lifted the 1150RT with ease and its easy to ride onto

CHRIS
you can`t have any fun in a straight line

Monza
Honda CB77 project

Back to Top
Dukedesmo View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 Apr 2015
Location: Leics
Status: Offline
Points: 856
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dukedesmo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 18:01
I have a Clarke hydraulic bench with air lifting, best thing I ever bought and I don't know how I manged before as I do all my own maintenance/repairs.

Plenty strong enough to lift a Guzzi and with the air lifting it's much easier/quicker to lift it up than relying on just the pedal.

It has a wheel clamp that can hold the front or rear but it can be removed easily to get a paddock stand on for a double tyre change;

  

As it's quite large it does take up a fair amount of floor space but I use it as a bike parking space so not a problem. 


Le Mans 2
Ducati 916

Ducati M900
Back to Top
Jerry atric View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 24 Nov 2014
Location: Wiltshire
Status: Offline
Points: 3367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jerry atric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 18:47
I have a very basic bench powered by a 2 ton trolley jack. I've had it 20 years and it is far and away the most useful thing in my garage, including me!
Back to Top
Death by apathy View Drop Down
Falcone
Falcone
Avatar

Joined: 09 Sep 2019
Location: Hertfordshire
Status: Offline
Points: 54
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Death by apathy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 18:48
Nice pic Dukedesmo, my living room used to look like that too... before my missus moved in
God does not deduct from our alloted lifespan the time spent on a motorcycle
Back to Top
Mike H View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 May 2014
Location: East Anglia
Status: Offline
Points: 8733
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 01:49
Originally posted by johnc2435 johnc2435 wrote:


Also can you jack up on the sump using one of those hydraulic lifts or scissor lifts? I am just wondering about removing wheels etc?


Yes I did often. Used a bottle jack. Never had a lift or table, just grovelled about on the floor. can't do that so well nowadays tho!

Mainstand and jack under sump to remove front wheel, mainstand only to remove rear wheel.



"Chicken nuggets don't dance on a Tuesday."
Back to Top
johnc2435 View Drop Down
Falcone
Falcone


Joined: 26 Sep 2019
Location: Swansea UK
Status: Offline
Points: 54
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnc2435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 16:51
Thanks guys,

I have read  about usuable length of lift  on internet and there seems to be short and long  beds,  both with high weight loadings.  What is the correct length for  a guzzi? Should the back wheel be on the flat lift or the ramp ( assuming centre stand use) . 

I'd probably prefer a scissor design over the paralelogram type. As it would take up less space. 
Thanks

Thanks

Someone who fixes thing that have broken, and enjoys things that haven't
Back to Top
Mike H View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 May 2014
Location: East Anglia
Status: Offline
Points: 8733
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 17:05
Whatever it is needs to be sturdy and safe, like you said it'll be a heavy bu55er to fall off on you.

"Chicken nuggets don't dance on a Tuesday."
Back to Top
cugsy View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 Nov 2016
Location: norfolk
Status: Offline
Points: 958
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cugsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 07:47
Like mine did first time i used it
Due to italian electrickery I am saying nowt. Despite nearly giving the Vstrom away the honda has gone...
Back to Top
ReggieV View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2014
Location: Leeds,Yorkshire
Status: Offline
Points: 456
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ReggieV Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 10:39
My lifting table has one fixed height.
If I'm doing work on the front end and need the front wheel out, I place a block of wood between the jack and the sump and use a scissor jack.
There is also this engine stand that although a bit clumsy to use, is useful when removing the frame from the engine/gearbox and is very sturdy and safe.
 
Back to Top
Brian UK View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 13 May 2014
Location: Surrey
Status: Offline
Points: 17641
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 12:12
My sky hooks  really don't work well at all. And I paid a lot of money for them to that travelling salesman.
Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.
Back to Top
c13pep View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 31 Aug 2017
Location: Doncaster
Status: Offline
Points: 2110
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote c13pep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 12:33
Originally posted by johnc2435 johnc2435 wrote:

Thanks guys,

I have read  about usuable length of lift  on internet and there seems to be short and long  beds,  both with high weight loadings.  What is the correct length for  a guzzi? Should the back wheel be on the flat lift or the ramp ( assuming centre stand use) . 

I'd probably prefer a scissor design over the paralelogram type. As it would take up less space. 
Thanks

Thanks



Get the longest and more importantly the widest you have room for with a good sized ramp (mine has a 2Ft ramp) to make it easier to access. You`ll be surprised how often the bench gets used and what for ie lawn tractors or mowers or just as a convenient metal bench. I`ve even had a washing machine up on mine

CHRIS
you can`t have any fun in a straight line

Monza
Honda CB77 project

Back to Top
GuzziPaul View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Essex
Status: Offline
Points: 219
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GuzziPaul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 12:42
I have a short hydraulic bench, once the loading ramp is off, much of the back end from just behind the centre stand is in mid air (Tuono on an Abba and Le Mans on centre stand). I have limited space in the garage with three motorbikes and multiple pushbikes.
I have also made two wooden stands using 4x2. These are very slightly higher than the bottom of the sump (about 5mm) both are the same dimensions as the sump. It is possible to rock the bike back slightly on the centre stand and slide the wooden stand under. With either stand the entire bike can be stripped down to just leaving the engine on the wood stand, but still drain the engine oil.
One of the stands has heavy duty lockable casters. I can wheel the enire bike around on it, spin it round in its length or wheel the engine and gearbox out of the garage to clean.
Back to Top
red leader one View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 07 Oct 2014
Location: Cullercoats
Status: Offline
Points: 4466
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 20:38
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.094 seconds.