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    Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 07:26
Just want to open the debate (you can guess why) to see if people are moving away from owning/riding the classic small blocks to the new or newer ones.

I own two V65's from the mid-80's and although I'm not into the classic scene, I enjoy having the kind of bike I can fix myself, has character, etc.  BUT....... I keep getting drawn to the newer V7's.

What are people's experiences of going from old to new?  And did you go back!?!?!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 08:23
I suspect most people would stick to their preference for the reasons you give. Not many seem to cross that threshold.
 
This is exactly why Guzzi/Piaggio aimed their marketing at potential new owners rather than the existing enthusiasts.
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Hi Stuart
As the owner of a modern V7, I would love to have the best of both worlds. I would really like an old V7 sport or even a G5/something from the eighties. Trouble is, although I greatly admire all the folk who spend their time polishing, fettling and restoring these classics, I am too lazy. Ideally, I would love to have both my modern V7 and a classic or 3, but I would not have the space or inclination to keep them all fettled. Thus I have settled for the next best thing in my mind, a'modern' classic the V7. I do have concerns that as it ages, it may develop faults that are complex and related to all the modern electronic trickery and so I shall probably change it soon for a new one, at least until the V85 arrives! The other reason that I shy away from older machinery is the lack of ABS. As I grow old disgracefully, my skills and reactions diminish, and with the madness that are our public roads these days gets worse, I want the added assurance this affords, especially as I do a lot of my miles two up with family members on board. Many will think I am a plonker because of this but I don't care
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I agree regarding ABS. I' not aware of it ever operating on my Norge, but it is nice to know you have that in reserve.
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Electronics on the new V7's isn't overly complex, just 3 ECU's: Instrument cluster, Engine management, ABS.
I work in automotive electronics design & manufacture and the quality levels nowadays are very high. I'd expect at least 15-20 years life without any major problems.
Most failures are sensors but they're relatively cheap and easy to replace.
 
Agree on ABS. It's like Johnno once said to me: "Comfort braking". He'd noticed I often give a light dab of rear brake on entering a corner when there's really no need, well ABS gives me that same feeling of comfort, knowing that if I'm a plonker and stab the brakes I should just have a scary moment rather than sliding along on my arse wondering what happened ;-)
 
I'll bet older V7's have got better dampers than the newer ones though...
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This is an interesting thread as I have also considered getting a new bike with abs etc, I ride a 1971 loop with drum brakes which I find very forgiving providing I keep in mind stopping distances. However last summer on a whim I took a test ride on a 750 Honda twin and scared myself by overbraking and the abs kicked in. I guess the abs probably saved me a from spill but I also guess with super powerful brakes you need abs. I really didn’t get on with the Honda at all everything felt alien, it also took me 20 mins to get back in tune with me loop. I might try the Suzuki V strom this year, but I won’t be selling me loop. Cheers Ian


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Don't know why the suspension on the new small blocks is so bad, almost all owners complain about it.
 
You are right about electronics, the reliability of a well designed unit is excellent these days. Most electrical problems on vehicles are down to sensors and the wiring itself.
But occasionally you do get owners cludging things up too.Evil Smile
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