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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 22:42
One other issue I had was the connection tor to the ECU. It was not at a full fit and on occasions would disconnect. A slight bump either way was enough to break the connection and reset it.   Drove me.mad until I discovered it. Quick cable tie around the box solved that one
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check plug caps too , std ones are sh*te 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 21:39
Any model fitted with the micro relays and with the Siemens name on them should be changed.
 
Older models (up to about 1990) will have the standard automotive relays, bigger and square looking. These are generally more reliable.
 
I would suggest you get a set of relays and replace them all, then see how things work.
 
Certainly swarf on the pickup will also cause a misfire. But if it continued after cleaning, then go for the relays.
 
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Big difference on price too. The siemens are about £30+ compared with £3 from ya man there. 
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Welcome another +ve on pyro dan utterly brill guy he posted the relays before I had even paid him I bought 2 sets and spares they are useful for other uses.... headlamp relays is one option
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tarquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 17:29
Originally posted by cugsy cugsy wrote:

Not a proper hijack but a related question Jim. Do you advocate replacing the original relays on the older bikes anyway? Mines a 99 cali - do it now? Or if it ain't broke etc..



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cugsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 16:18
Not a proper hijack but a related question Jim. Do you advocate replacing the original relays on the older bikes anyway? Mines a 99 cali - do it now? Or if it ain't broke etc..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 15:51
Hi Ian

as far as the relays are concerned if they are Siemens bin them - they are historically a big issue with various faults.   I had a '95 Cali 1100i that would cut out for no reason at all, and after a lot of punching and kicking it would start as if nothing was wrong - forum gudied me to suspect the relays - they were Siemens and i changed them over for little cost and had no problem after that 

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I have just joined the group, directed to you by a fellow member of the MotoGuzzi Club GB. I had posted about an issue on their forum, and received some replies, but it was suggested I ask on here, as you may have more expertise on older models. I have copied and pasted my original post to save my one-fingered typing having to do it all againEmbarrassed

In July I purchased a 1994 Cali 1100i, with 34k on the clock, from a friend who, having owned it for 2 years, was buying a new Triumph. On it's first ride, after about 30 miles it developed a misfire. I nursed it home, and after various checks, found a small flat washer hanging off the crankcase ignition trigger pick-up, located behind the r/h cylinder. Once removed, it ran perfectly. My mate said that the PO had a new starter motor fitted, and had been told to expect some swarf to be around for a while....!? He had experienced swarf on it once in his ownership, causing a misfire, removal of which restored it to perfect running.
I rode it to the IoM Classic TT in August, 1000 mile round trip, and whilst there a fuel pipe split. A local bike shop recovered it and replaced the pipe, but it was clear they all needed replacing, 9 in all. Rode back ok, and set about changing the pipes, also brake lines, and various other servicing jobs. Other stuff got in the way, building a workshop on my new house etc, but eventually completed the work, when the bike fired up and ran ok. MoT was out by that time, so didn't ride it. Booked in for an MoT a few weeks later, went to start it; no spark. Various checks, included fuses, all ok. Couldn't find any info on what the bank of 6 relays do, so I swapped the front two over, and got a spark. Fired up, headed off for the MoT, but after 1/2 a mile it started misfiring, coaxed it home, took out the aforementioned ignition trigger, and it had swarf on it. Removed the swarf, but no improvement. 
It is difficult to start, and the misfire is equally on both cylinders, so is unlikely to be coils. I am suspecting a relay issue, but do not know what each one does. However it may be something else entirely.
Any ideas?

Many thanks. Ian

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