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    Posted: 12 Jun 2017 at 19:33

 

If this should be in General Electrics Section, feel free to move it Brian.

On a 2009 Bellagio.

 

 

I am looking for a bit of help with this.

 

 I have Error code 45 showing in ecu errors info, now reading the codes it reads, ' Error relay starter C.C. ground ECU 45', which would indicate that it is an earth problem with or at the starter relay.

 

The bike is starting no problem at all and I have checked  the earths in this circuit, they look clean with good connections, but even trying to clear the error using the 'Clear Errors' in the menu doesn't clear it.

The only thing I have done to the bike is the 'Click no crank fix' a while ago, unfortunately I didn't check to see if there was a code showing before I did that.

 

I also had to replace the oil pressure switch as that was showing up as a fault, D07 I think, I used the 'reset' after that and it cleared.

 

I read somewhere, sorry I cannot remember where, that the reset function doesn't work with an ECU error code and that it needs to be reset at a dealers, maybe someone could clear that up for me.

 

Now, as I said the bike is starting no problems, but why is the error light still on and is there anything I can do to clear it?

 

I know I don't see it when on the bike but I know it's there and would like to clear it if possible.

 

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The descriptions are not that helpful. I can only assume the ECU checks continuity through the start relay coil and finds it higher resistance than it thinks it should be.
 
I thought you could reset those errors too, but of course if it sees the same "error" the next time you switch on, the error will be back.
 
(I've asked if any of the Gurus on Guzzitech have any idea).
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Have you tried taking it back before the relay fix to see if that clears it ?
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Thanks Brian, put simply, the descriptions are bike starts everytime no problem, but when I checked ecu faults there was one showing, Ecu Error 45 and it doesn't seem to want to clear using reset. Is it possible there has been previous problem and because it's an ecu error it needs dealer software to clear it?
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Originally posted by Jim Mac Jim Mac wrote:

Have you tried taking it back before the relay fix to see if that clears it ?
Hi Jim, do you mean putting wiring back to original?
Could do, wouldn't take long.
Going up north on it on Friday for couple of weeks, not too bothered about it as bikes seems ok but would just like to know if there was a way to get rid of indicated fault, as mentioned it could be historic.
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According to the list on Guzzitech, the ECU only stores current errors, not historic.
So whatever is causing this must still be there.
 
I imagine the Guzzidiag software would tell you more.
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

I imagine the Guzzidiag software would tell you more.
 
 
Right that's me out, it can stay the way it is!
 
Way above my head, I like simplicity, ... if I hadn't had a read of the owners book to pass some time and an electronic wander through to various buttons I would have been none the wiser and blissfully chugging along as it's starting fine. 
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Turn the clock back a few days and pretend it didn't happen.
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[QUOTE=Brian UK] Turn the clock back a few days and pretend it didn't happen.[/QUOTE
Pretend what never happened?
 
Dear knows how long the error has been there anyway.
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Although I could be entirely wrong, I was under the impression that all ECU's stored historic codes and this thread seems to allude to that.


http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/question-about-error-codes.11270/




http://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/error-codes-for-5am-ecus.7966/

Read the sentence immediately AFTER Dashboard Error list where it says the following:- The dashboard maintains memory of old errors.



Just ride it Rob, give them a chance to clear especially as ( if memory serves correctly ) these issues came to light after reconnecting the battery?




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Originally posted by rbt1548 rbt1548 wrote:

[QUOTE=Brian UK] Turn the clock back a few days and pretend it didn't happen.[/QUOTE
Pretend what never happened?
 
Pretend you never looked for codes.
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Originally posted by rbt1548 rbt1548 wrote:

[QUOTE=Brian UK] Turn the clock back a few days and pretend it didn't happen.[/QUOTE
Pretend what never happened?
 
Pretend you never looked for codes.
 
I was pretending to pretend it never happened , as in "what never happened?"Big smile
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Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Although I could be entirely wrong, I was under the impression that all ECU's stored historic codes and this thread seems to allude to that.

 
Thanks for that.
 
We'll see what happens. Everything is doing what it should anyway; I will try Jim's suggestion of putting the wiring back to before I did the 'click no crank', it'll take a couple of mins as I made the connections so  it could be easily reversed.


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Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Although I could be entirely wrong, I was under the impression that all ECU's stored historic codes and this thread seems to allude to that.
The ECU only shows current faults. The Dash displays them and can store old faults.
 
I assume the error 45 is in the current list?
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Although I could be entirely wrong, I was under the impression that all ECU's stored historic codes and this thread seems to allude to that.
The ECU only shows current faults. The Dash displays them and can store old faults.
 
I assume the error 45 is in the current list?
 
There is only one list for ECU Errors, 'active'.
 
I put wiring back to before the 'click no crank' fix and changed the relay for one I got from PyroDan but error still showing. SO, I'm not going to concern myself any longer with it as everything seems to be working and as Tarquin says a decent ride out may trigger something in the ECU. It could be just one of these things that ECU's seem to throw up now and again.
 
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