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I know you said you prefer the ferry but if you are heading for the Vosges the Eurotunnel is well placed and if you collect Tesco Clubcard points they can be exchanged for your ticket. I think you get three times the value. Have used that route to Frane for the last couple of years and whilst you don't get to relax and eat on the ferry it is quick and the bike doesn't have to be tied down. Have got into the habit of stopping at the services at M20 junction 11 for a bacon sarnie before going to the train. Having ridden to the tunnel via the motorway I like to get off the Autoroute within an hour or so from Calais. Even then the Vosges is an easy two day ride away so three days from Yorks should be comfortable. It is possible to ride up the Route des Cretes along the Vosges in a day so you would probably have time to explore the Black Forest too. The B500 road is outstanding.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rollo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2017 at 21:37
Would also recommend a tour of the Picos in Northern Spain. The roads and the scenery are worth the effort of getting there and back.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2017 at 22:25
Yes, you do get 3 times the Tesco coupon value on Eurotunnel, and the seating provided for bikers is so luxurious.
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How about the Republic of Ireland ? Back road craziness abounds across the country. I've ridden sooooo many miles there so I have. One day I'll put a few suggestions up here if y'all want. You can even go into the North. But that is the UK !
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Thanks again guys,

@Rollo, I wondered about the train, but was put off by the bike not being tied down. Some people seem to think it's the bees knees, others are less happy. Sounds like you're experience was a good one? Vosges is looking like the favourite option and really appreciate the heads up about the black forest :) Also interesting about the Tesco vouchers, I'll have to check if I get anything from Asda seeing as I work for them!

Northern Spain is on the bucket list :)

I love Ireland and have been to the NW200 a time or two on other bikes, totally agree about the backroads over there. I'll be saving Ireland and Scotland for long weekends so that I have opportunity to get there more often. Biggest challenge in both places has got to be the language barrier Tongue




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I do like the tunnel. I also like the ferry. They are very different. The Clubcard thing has meant that I have used the tunnel for the last few years. The service varies in that when it is busy the wait times can be a pain. Other times you ride straight to the train. Once on the train the bike is parked on the side stand and in gear against a small step at the side of the carriage. The train jolts a couple of times but the bike is secure without ties. With a fly up sidestand it is a good idea to take a strap and put it from the stand to the front wheel or frame lug so that the stand can't flick up. I do this on the ferry too. I stand next to the bike on the train, it's only for half an hour. You can't treat the tunnel as a rest break like you can the ferry but it is so quick you can make better time if it all goes smoothly. Coming back from Calais I have had much better luck getting straight onto the train. Often an hour early.

I don't do this, but if you can afford it you can buy a ticket to travel anytime in which case they put you on the next train whenever you turn up. That has to be the most convenient service. Much more expensive though.

Just as an example, last time I went to the Vosges and stayed off the Autoroute completely we used the following campsites; Soissons, Autun, St Die, Verdun, Ypres. You will see that that is a circuitous route to the Vosges with only the night at St Die being in the Vosges. Soissons to Autun via Avalon and Chateau Chinon in the Morvan adds to the trip. If you go straight to the Vosges you will have time for Germany. All depends on how long you have. From Yorkshire you might want to stay in Kent before getting a morning crossing. The Hilton at Maidstone does some good offers or there is a choice of campsites at Folkstone. From Ypres you would be able to get home the same day if you liked.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ranton_rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 12:47
I've used the Eurotunnel twice with my loop. They park you diagonally with the front wheel against the kerb and the sidestand down. You stay with the bike and the train moves so smoothly I had no concerns at all. Might be a little more worried with a Tonti-frame bike with a spring-up stand, but probably just put it on the mainstand. Much prefer to the ferry.
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I like the ferry.I used to use the overnight service from Portsmouth to Caen.Arriving at Ouistreham at 6 am gave you the whole of the first day to get down to the Massive Central.However, if time is an important consideration then the tunnel is great.It's all very easy and safe as described by Ranton Rambler above.There is the added convenience in that should you be delayed you can just get on the next train which will be along soon.Not so convenient with the ferries.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 16:16
Having used the tunnel in the car, nothing on earth would induce me to use it with a bike.
That luxurious seating, the dirty floor, just hope you don't end up being parked within smelling distance of the toilets.
I prefer to leave the bike, sit down somewhere comfortable and have a coffee. I wouldn't use it with the car except that we take the dog and it's less stressful for her.
 
But each to their own.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Normski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2017 at 19:13
You do seem to be cattle class with a bike using the tunnel but you're not in there long and last time I used it there was a snack van serving the waiting queue. Worst thing for me is it's a long way further than the more westerly channel ports, but the 5-7 hrs saved crossing can be a lot of miles ridden.
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Yes, but add to that the autoroute tolls and the higher cost of petrol.
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Well I think I have another idea... that I have done a good few times and it is a great trip.

Get the boat to Spain (that is a 24 hour cruise!!) - the theory is you land in a sunny Spain - you could just tour Northern Spain staying in Paradors - or you could head North, and bimble up to N France - then home

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Feb 2017 at 21:42
Originally posted by Zecis Zecis wrote:

the theory is you land in a sunny Spain -
They have snow at the moment. LOL
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

They have snow at the moment. 


Which is why we don't have any courgettes, or iceberg lettuces the now. Still, we'll have even fewer when we cut the cord, so best get used to it, eh? (o;

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyclobutch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 13:05
Not relevant here really, but I put dropped pillion footrests on my Rexxer for Mrs B.

I've done two longer trips with her on that bike;
. Motorail from the Netherlands to Livorno and then rode back via the tunnel at Calais. 
. Ferry to Bilbao and then rode back via the tunnel at Calais.
(And we live in central Essex)

So we managed those with a max of 250 mile days, which is not so long in the saddle on a fast bike.

This year I'm going to be a little less ambitious - in and out through Calais into the Black Forest and Champagne region. A little more relaxed on my T3 - 'Blue'.
 
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