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    Posted: 10 Oct 2017 at 17:03
I left work this afternoon and walked to the bike relieved to be going home.Got onto the bike and thought "something feels odd" The back tyre was as flat as a tyre can be.I tried to get the old beast (850 GT) onto the center stand so I could look for the cause of my troubles.However I couldn't do it because the tyre was flat !!
Called my better half who picked me up and drove me home to pick up a can of Holts tyre repair stuff and my foot pump.Got back to the bike and applied said "stuff." The tyre inflated enough to allow me to get the bike onto the stand I then picked up the pump to add more pressure and the hose union fell off,it had sheared.Then I heard a hiss,and all of the precious repair fluid squirted out of the valve stem hole in the rim.So the bike is in the thankfully secure car park and I shall go in tomorrow on the old V7 Special,work my shift then set about the 850, remove the wheel, tie it onto the V7 and take it for repair.Then I'll have to put the wheel back and juggle about with bikes and car untill I and the bikes are back home.
Bloody hell !! And 'twas all down to a two inch nail.

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Edited by Dave P. - 10 Oct 2017 at 17:07

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Welcome back to the real world , Full time job makes every bike problem a race with spare time lol
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I had a rear tyre puncture in mine earlier this year - totally impossible to get it up onto the mainstand. I elected to call the Carole Nash breakdown man to take me home.
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Cheers Johnno,I feel much better now.

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Your welcome my friend
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyclobutch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 2017 at 18:06
Could have been worse, could have been a three inch nail.
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There really is no answer to that.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 2017 at 18:54
Me it would have been a call to the AA ....job done mate rare they can fix a puncture at the road side especially older bikes with tubes ....only once did I have a breakdown truck attend, sent by the AA who got back wheel out on the V1000 got tyre off took out nail, repaired tyre then popped new tube, he carried a range of tubes BUT it was a fair time ago and within the M25 ... tubeless tyres are easier to fix but a lot of stress going to and fro'
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GUZZIPETE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 17:25
The Loops are a challenge to get on to the stand, worse than the Tonti's. I find building up a fore and aft rocking motion before the big final heave does the trick. The design of the radius on the stand rails is different between the Tontis and Loops. It seems to make a difference in use.

The puncture repair stuff is worth carrying. This was proved to me the year before last in France when a  friend picked up a pallet nail in the back wheel of his T3. It made it the remaining 80 miles or so to the accomm, and stayed up overnight before repairing it properly.
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I beg to differ. My loop is really easy to get onto the main stand, assuming it doesn't have a flat tyre as in Dave's case. I can actually do it from the wrong side.
The spur that sticks out past the exhaust is only to lower the stand. You then need to put your foot a bit further under and push down on the very end, where it curves up.
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I must be getting weak in my decrepitude I think. 
You're right about having to place the foot on the very end of the rails, I think it would be impossible otherwise.
The MOT tester always struggles too, I usually have to do it for him, and he's about 10 years younger than me!
Back to the gym, I think.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Glawster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 09:30
Bad luck Dave, I hope you are now sorted.  I wonder how many folks out there almost kill themselves trying to get their Tonti / Loop on the stand using the usual method of treading on the spur?  Certainly nearly did me in before I realised it takes about 25% of the effort if you move your foot to the end of the stand leg.  I don't remember any other bike being like this.
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I find my Loops easy to put on the main stand apart from when;
A.The rear tyre is flat....obviously.

B.When I had a Metzeler ME77 100/90/18 tyre fitted.It was hard work but doable.

When I replaced said tyre with my usual Avon SM 4.00/18(stop laughing)which has a deeper sidewall hence a greater overall diameter, the problem disappeared.

Edited by Dave P. - 20 Oct 2017 at 12:02

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It's all I can do to get my V7 on the main stand. 4.00-18 tyre on the back and 100/90-18 on the front. It's so bad that I only ever do so in the garage where it's nice and flat and I generally roll the back wheel onto a bit of board first. I'll have to take a look to see if the pivot holes are worn oval.
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On both my Spada III (Tonti) and the Norge, I shortened the centre stand a smidgeon. The SPIII almost put itself on the stand, and the Norge, which is heavier, is also OK now.
On the Spada I changed the angle of the bottom curve, on the Norge I took about 8mm off the length.
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