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Originally posted by guzzigraham guzzigraham wrote:


I bottled cutting / rewiring anything as I have messed up wiring / crimping before and ended up chasing faults around.  My solution cost a bit more (£30 ish) - but there are a few folks out there selling wiring kits which just plug into the relay connector and the jobs a good un.  I think the sellers of these things are a bloke on the WildGuzzi forum (cant remember exactly) and MPH Motorcycles (Texas).  I got mine from MPH for no particular reason - but it seems to have cured it.


I did same, bought the plug'n'play loom connector sold by MPH. More as a preventative measure than to cure a failure. My DIY electrical efforts are NOT conducive to reliability!

MPH/Todd's Plug n Play fitted two years ago was inexpensive and has not caused any problem

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 14:21
Putting the T5 back together again after gearbox issue. Checking and cleaning everything as I go. All appears good but for dreaded clunk click - have previously done the fix. Plenty of power in battery and a good loud clunk with quieter click but no start. Double checked and cleaned all connections no joy. Power to everything else and all working but no start- what next
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 14:28
[QUOTE=Jim Mac] Putting the T5 back together again after gearbox issue. Checking and cleaning everything as I go. All appears good but for dreaded clunk click - have previously done the fix. Plenty of power in battery and a good loud clunk with quieter click but no start. Double checked and cleaned all connections no joy. Power to everything else and all working but no start- what next[/QUOTE
If it's been off the road for a while stick it in gear and rock it could just of stuck also try starting it in gear if no luck]
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 14:42
Tried that, no joy   it is 32 years old,possibly time to replace it

Edited by Jim Mac - 02 Sep 2017 at 18:55
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Have you checked how much voltage drop there is at the terminals (& at earth) Jim? It could be crumbly cables...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 09:12
Go through the testing the starter motor process (see topic in FAQ).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 11:16
i know the starter spins - i ran a live straight to the terminal on the starter.  i will try bridging the terminals on the solenoid and see what i get
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 11:37
turned out to be the power cable, heavily oxidised just inside sleeving at one end.  quick swop and all's well
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 17:30
That's a relief.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 18:02
As often happens the mind starts the what if mode ....99% of elektrikery faults are bad/corroded/dry connections or worn insulation .....not that often a component fail ..... With older Guzzis the Rectifier rarely fails unless shorted out, bad earths create some difficult issues, The Bosch system is robust, The rotor can die but is easily replaced, the reg is well worth swapping for a variable electronic one ESPECIALLY if you put in an AGM battery as they need more volts than the lead acid ones
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Thanks Ken, I'd better sort that as I've put an AGM on my old Le Mans.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 11:45
I think I posted in faq or gen electrical from memory lead acid batt needs 13.8V to charge happily the AGM need 14.4V but do check numbers lower charge rates to the AGM kills them, it did the one I had fitted to the V1000 .....in fact the older system is way happier with the oem battery. .... The charge system on the V11 Le Mans was made for the AGM battery The downside of the newer charge systems is the reg/rect they tend to die IF the earth strap gets corroded. Top tip is to add 2nd one from other fixing bolt and clean check and grease regularly
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So my V7 Classic of 2009 has just started messing me about with Click no Crank, I thought it was starter solenoid so replaced it and for the first few days no problem, now it has returned and added in the blowing of the 15 amp lighting circuit fuse - so I really do not know what is going on ? Any thoughts please?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 09:18
Have you read the first post in this thread?
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Originally posted by DrJohn1610 DrJohn1610 wrote:

So my V7 Classic of 2009 has just started messing me about with Click no Crank, I thought it was starter solenoid so replaced it and for the first few days no problem, now it has returned and added in the blowing of the 15 amp lighting circuit fuse - so I really do not know what is going on ? Any thoughts please?


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