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Thanks guys.  I will try caustic soda first as its available at B & Q
 
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Originally posted by Chris950s Chris950s wrote:

I used to use non-bio washing powder mixed with fairy liquid into a paste, work it into all the fins and crevices with a toothbrush and leave for 20 minutes then pressure wash agitating with a brush. 

Cheap, easy and non toxic....sounds a great one if it works???
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Originally posted by FlyingTiger FlyingTiger wrote:

Thanks guys.  I will try caustic soda first as its available at B & Q
 
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Do not put caustic soda on aluminium!

https://www.quora.com/When-aluminium-caustic-soda-and-water-react-is-hydrogen-the-only-gas-released-What-happens-to-the-left-part-of-the-reaction


Years ago a mate was going to try that on his Yamaha RD250 silencers, but then somebody told him the alloy end pieces would dissolve. Well fizzle actually. So he didin't. OK if the silencer is all steel.

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Originally posted by Chris950s Chris950s wrote:

I used to use non-bio washing powder mixed with fairy liquid into a paste, work it into all the fins and crevices with a toothbrush and leave for 20 minutes then pressure wash agitating with a brush. 



Originally posted by Bushymusic Bushymusic wrote:

Cheap, easy and non toxic....sounds a great one if it works???


Only one way to find out! Big smile

I have included hair shampoo with some success. I read somewhere that originally the stuff that then became hair shampoo was originally developed for degreasing engines, not sure how true that is.




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Originally posted by Bushymusic Bushymusic wrote:

Originally posted by Chris950s Chris950s wrote:

I used to use non-bio washing powder mixed with fairy liquid into a paste, work it into all the fins and crevices with a toothbrush and leave for 20 minutes then pressure wash agitating with a brush. 
Cheap, easy and non toxic....sounds a great one if it works???
If you want brand new plus shiny finish then use something more dangerous, or aqua blasting. If you want clean pewter/gunmetal look of old aluminium then it works. Scrub it in hard with a toothbrush to ensure it gets everywhere then hose and brush it out. I don't want my 40 year old bike to be as shiny as aqua blasted dazzle, I have also painted all of the painted parts, apart from the tank and side panels, in satin black as I think gloss would just look too shiny on an old bike too.
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I prefer satin black too.
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Done the hard way, steel wool, autosol and skint knuckles..

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Caustic Soda versus Aluminium Heatsink




In case anyone thinks I'm being pedantic or a nanny, this is serious stuff. Also it's nasty stuff to handle.  Just mixing it with water causes an energetic reaction, with lots of heat. Need rubber gloves, face mask and eye protection at least. If you get any of it on you it will try to turn your skin into soap. I think it was last year I had it in drain cleaner, and it's left rings on the bottom of the bath where I put the bottle down, cos it was attacking the plastic. It will even have a go at glass, apparently.

Do not put it on your aluminium engine parts.

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Well it was clean at the end. LOL

Would also help to reduce weight, all those oversize ally castings, you kow they needn't be that heavy. Wink

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Nasty stuff caustic soda,but farmers use it to treat grain and straw to make them more palatable and digestible for cattle to eat. I've never found out why this can be used without causing the cattle harm. It stripped paint off any machinery it came into contact with.


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Originally posted by Chris950s Chris950s wrote:

I used to use non-bio washing powder mixed with fairy liquid into a paste, work it into all the fins and crevices with a toothbrush and leave for 20 minutes then pressure wash agitating with a brush. It was a tip I got from a former police bike mechanic and was good enough for me. I have an old stainless steel sink that I put over a manhole (manhole cover off of course) and stand the bike over or stick loose engine or parts in there to clean. 

Gunk and a toothbrush works ok as well especially on disassembled parts that you don't want to spray with water.

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+1. Method I have used. Find that strong mix Fairy Liquid / hot water is good for general grease and grime removal.

Possibly of no interest but I worked maintenance in Fairy Liquid manufacturing plant some years ago.
Main ingredients were acid and alkaline. Acid was extremely dangerous, would explode if in contact with water and give off toxic fumes. Made for an interesting time when tanker unloaded in the rain, every raindrop an explosion. 
Would burn flesh to the bone in seconds. We had to wear full rubber suit with breathing gear and never allowed to work alone.
Amazing what chemists can do to make product that is mild and kind to your hands.



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