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    Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 15:33
Hi from Sheffield 
V7iii first guzzi joins the ducati in garage love the bike and it’s quirky teething problems and appreciate the forums help.
The bikes you have should make you smile 😊 
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Did you use Via Moto in Sheffield by any chance?
Welcome to the forum. 
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Hi and welcome , I agree bikes you own should make you smile lolThumbs Up
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Didn't use via moto but they are my local dealer any reason to avoid or not
Got a far better trade in from another dealer 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MartinC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 15:54
They only service between 09:00 and 16:30hrs Mon-Fri, not much good for the working man, offer a pick up service at £1 a mile but seam reluctant to offer it. Had a warranty claim which they dealt with quickly but can't get it in to them, have to drop it off Saturday and pick up when I can, prices seam on par with other dealers though. 
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Out of interest how much do they charge for a first service. Heard some ok and some horror stories re them 
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Mine seemed to make it up and tried to charge £350 or thereabouts.
This made me exceedingly angry and I questioned their calculations , at which point it was reduced a shade.
I still challenged it and when I returned home I researched all the guzzi book times for every workshop task and discovered that the 900 miles first service was 100 minutes book time plus fluids.
So , 100 minutes or about 1.8 hours x the dealer hourly labour rate plus fluid costs will give you your bill.
Just be wary and ring around unless your confident to challenge them.
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Not had it done yet, but will enquire when I take or pick the bike up, changed oil at 450 miles and it took 15 mins. 
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Mine is very difficult impossible to change from first to second until it’s been moving for about a minute then it’s very smooth is yours a reluctant gear change when cold until warmed 
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I alway let it warm up on tick over as I move the car off the drive, never had a problem as yet, only on 490 miles with this weather
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Charlie, just asked about 1st service and its £250,thought I'd got away from them prices when I left the Harley world, hey ho. 
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Find out how much they charge per hour and how long they billing you for its stated as a 100 minutes job by moto guzzi
Smc wanted over a grand a few years ago for my desemo service on my ducati halved it using an independent. You can't make it up 
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Surely the first service isn't much more than oil and filters? Or am I still living in the seventies? (last time I bought. a new bike)
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All the oils , engine gearbox rear axle.
Valve clearances and all the usual functionality checks , tyres etc
100 minutes is about 1.8 hours , which , as a technician myself, is sensible frankly to do a decent job.
Remember the book time starts when the tech is given the keys and job card.
Into the workshop , up on the ramp etc etc , do the job and back outside.
1.8 x £80 Labour rate = £144
Plus oils , 2 litres of 10w60 at 12 quid each plus gear oils etc = about 40 quid.
So roughly 190 quid plus vat , you're getting close to 250 then.

The next service at 6000 miles is from memory about 110 minutes unless you do some of it yourself but then the book isn't stamped and your 2 year warranty is on sticky ground.

I used to be a fiat tech and the 72000 service on one of their cars was 11 or 12 hours. Multiply that by main dealer rates of 100 per hour plus parts ??? Hmmm


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