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    Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 17:55
Hello
I've done a search on the forum but can't find the definitive answer... On a v35 carb, what do the two screw adjustments do? What is the expected behaviour if I adjust them?
1. The one that sticks out and you can adjust by hand.
2. The one that is flush and you need a screw driver.
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No 1 adjusts the tick over speed by pushing the slide up and down

No 2 varies the air fuel ratio at tickover
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thetar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 18:03
Thank you. If I tighten no.2 will that 'richen' the idle mix?

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I'm guessing that because no2 is an airscrew (not a fuel pilot screw) then opening it will make it leaner, closing richer. Correct? 
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If this is a VHB carb the screw in question increases (Out) the amount of fuel/air mixture. The ratio's are determined within the carb drillings. Conversely screwing in reduces the supply.
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Got it, thank you. 
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It only controls mixture at idle speed, and up to about quarter throttle. The books all say, start at 1.5 turns out (from fully screwed in). Then screw out for maximum idle speed, or try it see if it does. Then screw it in until revs start to drop. Then back out again to restore the faster idle speed. THEN, adjust the throttle stop screw (the sticking out one) to get the idle speed you actually want. DO NOT mess this up for example having to have the throttle screw set higher otherwise it won't idle and stall, this isn't correct and can affect engine braking, as in, it doesn't, guess how I know! Big smile

Note also clogged up passages and jets will affect the behaviour of the idle screw; worst case is, twiddling it does nothing.




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Brilliant thanks. I must have other issues. It's a bit reluctant to start but runs ok at first. Then after a few mins the idle speed falls and I need to keep tightening the idle speed screw to stop it from stalling. Until it will turn no more and it stalls. Oily plugs after all that. I'm thinking my valve guide seals are leaking or something up with the valves. Maybe worn rings. 40km on the clock. 35 yrs old.
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look at the easy stuff first check fuel flow .... check carbs completely especially the chokes Had similar with a V50 gunge in fuel taps and carbs...inlet leak too 
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The Dellorto tuning guide might be useful.
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As Ken says do the easy stuff first plugs, points etc. but maybe a compression test on both cylinders should be the starting point 

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It would do no harm to check that the valve clearances are correct too.
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My V35 had a very similar problem, turns out that the valve clearances were amended and mine was set to the earlier settings, it's only a small adjustment but  cured my problem, cheap easy fix. From memory the early clearances were .04 & .06 the later ones .06 & .08  Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Ken-Guzzibear Ken-Guzzibear wrote:

look at the easy stuff first check fuel flow .... check carbs completely especially the chokes Had similar with a V50 gunge in fuel taps and carbs...inlet leak too 
  on my 650 I noticed it did not want to start like it used to and once started was not happy I ended up replacing fuel lines once this was done I could set the carbs easily and now for a guzzi small block I got a rocketship . Sounds like your on the right track but a quick inspection of fuel lines might be worth a look. All the best.
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My V35II had carb problems even though the bike was allegedly sorted and running well..!

On inspection the slide needles on mine were corroded so I replaced them along with the corresponding atomisers.  My bike (1982) has VHBZ carbs.
If they have not been checked over it's worth having a good look inside to see what (if anything) needs replacing. A couple of gasket sets will help.
When setting them up make sure the throttle slides hit the bottom of the carbs simultaneously, on my bike there are two separate cables and needed adjusting..
It's fiddly but worth it in the end. My tickover is still a little high but the plug colour is good so I'm leaving it...

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