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You have to remember that when looking for your next bike,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hughguzzi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2019 at 19:47
I don't think theres anything deliberately dodgy? Its a local to me main dealer Harley / Ducati which has been here for 25 + years, They sell on very tidy trade ins against those. Guzzis are not their normal thing and dont think they know a lot about them.  Although they did have a cali last year which sold.  Bike was traded in against a BMW R9T and has been there for quite a few months - also a sale on at the moment. I have seen on tinternet a Cali with bags / screen etc ooop north for less money, but I agree most are higher money as more recent and lower mileage. They say they will do the 6000 mile service and check out the pulling to right. Also the accompanying test rider is a long term biking friend working for the shop and I'm sure he would let me know if he had any issues. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2019 at 22:25
In this country these are hard bikes to sell there are few riders that have the guts to be different , the only worries I would have are tyre changing , and throttle not having cables but younger folk would not worry so much . I would love a Matt black custom Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BobV7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2019 at 23:12
Don't know where the idea of "having guts to be different" comes from when choosing to buy a bike. Sounds a bit too much like the excuse some people use for wearing leather jeans with laces down the sides!Embarrassed

Maybe the bike is OK but it is very cheap.Ermm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2019 at 23:38
Originally posted by BobV7 BobV7 wrote:

Don't know where the idea of "having guts to be different" comes from when choosing to buy a bike. Sounds a bit too much like the excuse some people use for wearing leather jeans with laces down the sides!Embarrassed

Maybe the bike is OK but it is very cheap.Ermm
I see your point quite clear , but I get fed up of guzzis people always thinking eBay and cheaper bikes are always Something wrong . I sold 6 bikes in 1995 well cheap because I lost my home because I didn't I budget correctly they were bargains  lol 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 07:40
`Surely as long as you go in with your eyes open, the price doesn't matter.

The seller is a known trader, which means you have plenty of backup from the sale of goods legislation, so there shouldn't be any risk.

As said, the bike has been in that dealer for several months, so clearly there is no big market for it. In the end, in this country, it's the market which dictates the price.

I have this gold bar I am prepared to give away. I know it's safe to offer it like this because giving it away makes it too cheap, so I know nobody will want it. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BobV7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 08:10
You're not the only one to have sold bikes too cheap...set the bar too low to encourage bids and only got one. Dhooo!

I'm on me way Brian! Always happy to collect unwanted gold bars. Don't bother cleaning it up.LOL
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Regarding price. I don't think it's too cheap. I sold my Touring for about that. Higher mileage but better equipped. If i wanted another 1400 I'd go for it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 13:54
"They say they will do the 6000 mile service and check out the pulling to right. Also the accompanying test rider is a long term biking friend working for the shop and I'm sure he would let me know if he had any issues"

That seems fair enough. Can't moan at that.
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I don't think I'm having a problem with the bikes condition, price or backup from the shop, suppose I'm having second thoughts about ability to resell seeing as Guzzi are apparently withdrawing the 1400 from UK market ? - means I would take a big hit in value. I know that the bike you ride is a mostly heart thing not a money thing, but it plays a part when my other option is a Stelvio which Ive not test ridden yet ! 
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Originally posted by hughguzzi hughguzzi wrote:

I don't think I'm having a problem with the bikes condition, price or backup from the shop, suppose I'm having second thoughts about ability to resell seeing as Guzzi are apparently withdrawing the 1400 from UK market ? - means I would take a big hit in value. I know that the bike you ride is a mostly heart thing not a money thing, but it plays a part when my other option is a Stelvio which Ive not test ridden yet ! 

But isn't the Stelvio also a withdrawn model?

As an aside, I have ridden a Norge (same motor as Stelvio,) when my Touring was having a service. Thought the 1200 was a cracking motor, revvier and sportier than the 1400. And so much more agile.

Could be a hard choice. The Stelvio is the more practical ride. The 1400 roll-on addictive.
Buy both!Wink

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If only I could afford it I would !! Tongue
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Been giving this some serious thought for a while and as much as I love the look of the California - its too hard to justify the price / usefulness / resale equation. I go touring every summer and am leaning back towards a Stelvio 1200 for practicality - probably going to bid on one very soon. Not Ridden one yet though but probably worth a punt, Ive read good things about 2011/12 onwards if the cams have been done as they rev lower for the power ? Luggage carrying is a big factor and visibility for every day riding.
Hard to know how much to bid up to as there are not many for sale !! 
 


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Just make sure the cams have been rollerised, not just changed.

But I wasn't aware of any differences in performance in the 8 valve engines.
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Stelvio 1200 considering bidding on -  Is 29k miles too late to have done the roller conversion for a 2013 bike  its done 31k miles now can see the black has worn off part of the followers - I have read that 2013 bike should be a factory rollerised top end ? but that the last of the flatters had a much better set up although still need converting. presumably if the cams look smooth and the followers look smooth it should be ok ? 


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