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    Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 13:49
Having replaced my instrument cluster on my Breva 1100, 4000 miles ago with a new(old stock) unit, I was disappointed to see it mist up this week. I now cover it with a shower cap when parked up(as suggested on this forum I think) I am changing jobs shortly, which will involve much travelling. The good news is I can use a motorcycle. I am thinking of a Norge, but as I have to log my miles, the thought of a leaking instrument panel is off putting. Does anyone know if Guzzi solved this problem with the 8v versions?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 17:26
Never had any problem with my 07 Norge. I think the angle on the Norge is different, so maybe it doesn't suffer quite as much.
 
There is a fix for this problem, see the topic in the FAQ section.
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Hi Brian,
Thank you for your prompt reply. I sat on a Norge today. I was surprised how small the fairing was. How efficient is it at keeping you dry?

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I have a little mist in my 2007 Breva 1100 as well. But it is not so much that I can't see the info on the screen. Perhaps changing the sealing around the dash-unit would help. 
Changing bike seems like a big decision based on mist in the dash?

I would love to ride my Breva to work a long way every day!
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I have the larger screen on my Norge, which helps, but you do get wet hands.
 
The Norge with the electric screen has the dash mounted at a different angle to the manual version by the way, which might affect things.
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I wasn't going to sell the Breva, I love it. I was thinking of an additional bike for work. At the moment I commute 200 miles a week. This will climb to 600+ a week and was wanting something to keep the bad weather at bay, as well as reliable mileage information.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 2017 at 17:00
Originally posted by retrorodent retrorodent wrote:

This will climb to 600+ a week

Wha...? Shocked

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There'sworse ways to make a living than being paid to ride around.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2017 at 14:17
I have a 2012 Norge and not had any problem with misting. I replaced the stock screen with a larger Skidmarx screen which is fine and deflects most rain bit I would go for the largest if I need to replace it
I rode from Edinburgh to Totnes in Devon last year on what was probably the worst weather I hAve been on a bike. With a pair of waterproof trousers and my Tuareg jacket I was bone dry but it took the jacket a couple of days to dry outl
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When I picked up the Bellagio I noticed after about 20 miles that there was some mist/condensation on the inside of the glass, it did go away by the time I had got home, unfortunately my mother died later that day and due to various things happening over the following few weeks I didn't get to go out on the bike.
However when I did get the chance I again noticed the misting so I had a bit of a poke round on the internet and there were a number of solutions, from the sublime to the ridiculous!
 
The one I settled on was opening up the dash, making sure everything was as dry as possible and polishing the glass, when I had it open I drilled 3 holes in the base of it , the black plastic section, using a pin vise with small modelling drill bits, one in each corner and one in the centre of the bottom , I made the hole that is on the same side as  the side stand slightly bigger as the bike would be lying at an angle when parked allowing any water that did ingress to drain out.
 
When putting it back together again  I used good quality, flexible bathroom silicone sealer to seal the joints , the colour is your choice.
 
Up until now it has been a success with NO misting inside the clocks and that includes the horrendously wet journey I had back from the west coast a few months ago. I hope I just haven't cursed it !
 
Anyway, that seemed to work for me, a few small unseen holes and a bit of quality silicone, it maybe a solution to your misting problem, if it is you can put your shower cap on ebay, say it's piece that very few Guzzis were supplied with ad make a fortune!Big smile
 
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Originally posted by retrorodent retrorodent wrote:

There'sworse ways to make a living than being paid to ride around.

OK, I thought it meant commuting. LOL


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Thanks for the tip. Just a bit nervous of opening it up. The clocks that came with the Breva were damaged by the previous owner using a screwdriver to prize them apart.
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Originally posted by retrorodent retrorodent wrote:

Thanks for the tip. Just a bit nervous of opening it up. The clocks that came with the Breva were damaged by the previous owner using a screwdriver to prize them apart.
 
Don't go into it all guns blazing, just undo the screws, I'm not sure what a Breva dash is like construction wise but the Bellagio has screws that hold the chrome area  to the main dash so I assume the Breva will be similar.
 If the dash will not separate will a wee bit of pulling I wouldn't use a screwdriver to prise it open, just check all the screws are out, if they are it's likely that it will be the seal that is making the separation difficult, you can use something like a hairdryer to warm it up and soften the seal and that should help separate the dash.
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http://guzziriders.org/uploads/6/Clocks1.pdf
This is a detailed description of dismantling the Breva dash, courtesy of the Guzzitech forum.
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Thanks for the link. I might give this a try, might need some dutch courage first...
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