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    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 at 15:55
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I have recently acquired a 2007Breva 1100, my first Guzzi! The bike has done 25000 miles and is in fantastic condition for it's age. The service book is stamped up to 20,000 miles, but that was 6 years ago. Previous owner said oil and filter was changed regularly, the last time in early 2017. Appearance of oil and filter bear this out. MOT shows just 600 miles 2017-2018

I've noticed that when under load, either accelerating or decelerating, everything is fine. However cruising along under minimal load, say in top at 30 mph there is a distinct rattle coming from the transmission. There's also something that feels and sounds like the snatch you get from a chain drive where the slack in the transmission is taken up going from engine braking to power. The engine sounds fine when I stop to listen.

Also it's temperamental when starting. Sometimes I just get the solenoid click, then I have to leave it a few minutes, more often it will start.

Regardless of these problems, I love this bike. Not only is it beautiful to look at, it sounds and rides fantastic.
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My 1150 BMW would `snatch` at 30mph in top, because that`s way too slow in top gear, even worse on a chain drive like my Fazer.
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The starting problem is well documented here. Look at the click no crank topic in the FAQ section.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote theoneandonly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2018 at 18:34
and the noise is the front bush in the torque arm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Louisc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 01:02
Guzziki ... everything that you said. I'm back to biking after a long break, and I'm old - but not too old to ride. My first Moto Guzzi after many many years of dreaming of one. 

 Bought a Breva 1100 with a good service record, and in great condition, similar age and miles as yours. It was 30 years since I rode anything bigger than a 250, and I fell in love with the Breva during the first mile

I have similar clunking noises and snatch when slowing down and picking the drive again at low speeds. I'll get around to fixing it when it starts to rain - but right now I've too much catching up to do. Mine sometimes feels just a little rough at low speed traffic type riding - and I think this is common too. My bikes previous owner also gave me a power commander (in its box, had never been fitted) so I'm thinking about fitting that.

I don't have starting issues, but as somebody said - there's lots written here about that - and the fix is pretty easy.

I've seen some people here express the opinion that the Breva is the best bike Guzzi ever made. I'm sure they're all Breva owners - and since I've never had any other Guzzi (yet) - I don't know - but its a damn fine bike just the same!

The V7 and V9 are nice - but it seems to me there's a hole in the Guzzi range now with a Breva equivalent between the V9 and the California/MGS...











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As far as I can see, there are just 4 models in the current Guzzi range. The V7, V9 and the two 1400 cruisers. TBH, I wouldn't buy any of these, they're ugly.

Some of the most beautiful bikes ever were the Centauro, Sport, Breva and Griso, of which the Breva was the prettiest. Guzzi have gone mad in my opinion, but I can understand them concentrating on the best-sellers

I've had a few V-twins in my time, all japanese, all faultless (apart from the chocolate cams on the TR1). The character and nature of the Breva blows them all away!! Like you, I'm in love with my Guzzi. I still have my 1250 Bandit, I'll never let that go!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guzzuki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 09:08
Is that the thing referred to as the "reinforcement bar" in the manual? Is it possible to replace the bushes without dismantling the  rear end?

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It's the torque reaction bar. You can get a rubber bush to fit the front end. Standard on the Stelvio. The rod comes off with two bolts. Old bush pressed out, new one in.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Louisc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 10:49
I'll change it... soon. I've tried both ends of it and I can't feel any play. I'm also wondering about busheds on the rear shock lineage.. Somewhere on line somebody has published a very good step by step (with pictures) guide to doing a routine service on the back end - greasing the driveshaft splines, the swinging arm bold, and the suspension bushes. 

I'm planning on trying to do the complete job when we get a wet weekend, and when I can fid that online guide again!



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I think there are nice V7 and V9 models - but there's definitely a gap in their line up. I'm wondering if its some kind of philosophy to quit making models while they are still (relatively) popular - in a bid to ensure that they become sought after classics ? Doesn't make sense commercially .

Or is it the policy not to have Moto Guzzi models competing with Aprilia models ? Doesn't make sense to a Guzzista..

But I'd bet that within a year or two you'll see more models in the line up filling that gap. 
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FOUND IT>


Theres a special tool required to remove a nut from the swinging arm. 


lots of debate about make one vs buy one. I've looked on eBay but didn't find anything. I reckon it might not be hard to make... but I don't know what I'm talking about.




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I used a C spanner, I have a Britool adjustable one. Did that job perfectly.
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