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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Bushymusic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 10:21
Originally posted by Oldrat Oldrat wrote:

And don’t forget that any Goretex lined glove will leak if you use heated grips, the heat changes the fabric pore size allowing water molecules in.

And as that logic goes....On these days when it really pisses down with rain & it runs down your sleeves and still gets in to your Gortex gloves by "running in from the top" because you forgot to tuck the gloves in...you can put your heated grips on ....expand the Vortex to allow water to pass...and dry your gloves out as you ride....Like it!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Barry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 10:33
Just to throw an option in to the Mix - when it comes to the armour, I got hold of one of those 'armoured shirts' this year, which can go under a variety of jackets: thick, thin, waterproof, or not.  Know was the brand I went for, and I highly recommend it - quality bit of kit.

I'll likely be looking at the Held gloves this year, so thanks for that recommendation ...  although the Halvarsson's I got a year or three back didn't disappoint.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote BondEquipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 11:12
If you don't like walking round all day in bike kit the the Aerostich Roadcrafter is a good option. Easy on/off one piece that goes over normal kit. Goretex, Cordura, armour, pockets, vents, etc, etc. Very well made and excellent reputation.

However no stockist over here (!) and hideously expensive so you either have to holiday in the US or keep an eBay search going. Sometimes they make money & sometimes not. Hence my £900 suit cost me £160!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote ranton_rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 12:57
I prefer to wear leather jacket and trousers if the weather looks OK. If likely to rain, I swap the leather jacket for a Hein Gericke jacket. I don't know what type it is, but it's about 10 years old and has never leaked. When it starts to look dirty it gets the Nikwax Techwash treatment to clean and re-proof. A cheap pair of waterproof trousers go over the leathers and I've never got wet.
I did buy some "proper" waterproof riding trousers (Richa I think). They are nice and warm for cold weather, but not especially waterproof.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote motomike1400 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 17:25
I found that "Dane" jacket and trousers were a better fit than the Rukka equivalent. Still around £1000 but that was 600 notes less than Rukka. Having said that, my £100 Richa jacket is still going strong after 10 years...and I reproof it with Thompson's water seal (for bricks)...a bit smelly but cheap! I kept it for abusing on my enduro bike rather than bin it.

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Although I haven't bought any in years, all my gear is  Hein Gericke Goretex lined . Some of it is over 10 yrs old and remains waterproof. I recently had a zip replaced in one jacket and gave it a new lease of life . I used to buy it in sales / end of line  from the branch in Newry  in Northern Ireland before they went  belly up.
I found their  cheaper sympatex  lined gear only remained waterproof  for about 18 mths especially in the trouser crotch areaShocked.   
The only problem with this older gear is the outer layer tends to soak up water  making the jacket heavy  and cold  ( while remaining waterproof Internally) The latest laminate Goretex  jackets of all manufacturers seem to have a very water repellent outer layer which has sorted this but at a cost  i'm reluctant to spend . I've recently  sorted this by buying lightweight  nylon  xxxl  clothing  which in prolonged wet spells can be left  on  over my heavy  jacket  / trousers . No more drying of motorcycle clothing needed after daily commutes  or  long  rides. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jalfrezi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 09:36
I have HG gear at the currently, but it's old, falling apart and leaks (Shelltex). 

I have now been contemplating buying summer gear with armour, reasonably loose so I can layer up in the winter (or possibly get heated undersuit), and as you suggest using a light rainsuit as required.

I really like the idea of the Aerostich mentioned earlier too. 


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Rukka stuff is now made to a price in Vietnam and if you check many of the biking sites online you’ll find that there’s a general air of declining quality about it. I believe they are now trading on reputation rather than reality.

I had an Aerostich Roadcrafter for many years and it was a great bit of kit but rather outdated and basic by modern standards. Given the current exchange rate buying new isn’t really sensible for a Brit.

Halvarssons stuff seems good - some friends rate it highly - but I found the cut uncomfortable and the prices are creeping up.

This year I renewed my winter gear with Dainese Carvemaster jacket and breeks. Both Goretex, no drop liners which i really dislike, and so far I’ve been more impressed than expected. It’s warm, comfortable and dry. I don’t expect it’ll last more than 3 years but the price was reasonable at 20% off standard retail on a deal so I’m happy for now. I wear a Forcedield pro shirt short sleeve armour shirt under it rather than use the built in Back protector and shoulder armour, plus it has a chest protector too. Very comfortable and well made and the manufacturer sells these on eBay for about 60% of retail most months. Good deal I reckon.

Take note that there is some new EU regulation about marking equipment as protective coming into force and most all current gear wil fall foul of that. Could be some deals coming up.... 
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I've got one of their textile two piece suits very comfy.


And also one of his but you'll need to go and see them if you can.
He wasn't far from me.


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Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:


I've got one of their textile two piece suits very comfy.


And also one of his but you'll need to go and see them if you can.
He wasn't far from me.


Yes, and the girls have been telling me for years I've got a nice bum. I know,I know


Scott seems like a nice operation, thanks.
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Have a look at this Month's Ride magazine. They have a review of textile jackets £250. The best buy was a Held 4 jacket £220.

I still wear my old Hein Gericke jacket and trousers with armour. They are about 15 years old but still in good condition. Gortex gloves are also a must for wet days. I only wear them in the colder months: in the summer it's an Aldi leather jacket, biker jeans and Dr Martens.
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