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    Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 19:31
I'm in need of some new bike gear, and somewhat bewildered by what's available, so would be good to hear what you buy and wear to stay warm/cool, dry and reasonably protected.

Thinks I struggle with:
- I don't like wearing bike gear, as I find it constrictive, and heavy.  In the winter I wrap up warm, and then roast whilst visiting shops etc.
- I cannot see me in leather ever!  So, how to minimise damage to myself in the evnt of a mishap?
- Related to the last point, armour.  I have some in my old jacket that needs replacing, and I'm pretty sure that minimised damage in my recent fall, apart from the hip armour that I didn't have.  But what is good, and bad.
- Cost.  When looking at new gear the prices vary wildly.  I cannot see that £1100 plus for a jacket would ever make sense to me, but how much does one have to pay for good kit. 

Probably more too, but don't want to bang on to much.  I'll just say that my bike is my only means of transport, so would be good to have sensible solutions for commuting, longer journeys, and different weather.

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Unfortunately price doesn't always mean quality.
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I have a Hein Gericke Tuareg jacket, with goretex liner. Never beenwet And I ride all year round i Scotland.  I have Halversen trousers which are also great if a bit short from waist to crutch

I bought both second hand off Ebay but only because they were minted condition 
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Dainese  SANDSTORM GORE-TEX JACKET is great in my opinion..£299 which is good value for what you get, three separate layers with the gortex being the middle one which you can remove.

Just get the extra back armour.
their winter over trousers are warm too...find your size & then buy second hand as an option.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote V7Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 21:04
I don't know if they will be doing a similar deal at this year's bike show, but  I got a very good deal at last year's show on an Oxford Montreal textile jacket and trousers. Total cost with extra spine armour for less than £200. Tough, well made, comfortable (for armoured gear - I know what you mean about heavy) waterproof (so far) and warm. zip out thermal liner for the warmer weather which is essential I think. Why would you pay more? MCN good review too:

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Gloves. Over the years I've had several pairs which were advertised as being waterproof. None of them stayed that way for more than a month or two. As I ride all year round I researched on the web to find the warmest and dryest gloves I could. I finally bought a pair of HELD gloves which have lived up to the claims made for them. Two years on my hands have never been cold or wet. They cost £99.00 but have been worth every penny.
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One word

Rukka 



Bought my Rukka 2 piece suit in 2007. Despite regular use it’s still 100% waterproof and in reasonable nick. Everything works as it should. As for value for money, I’d be on my fourth or fifth with another make.
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And don’t forget that any Goretex lined glove will leak if you use heated grips, the heat changes the fabric pore size allowing water molecules in.
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Originally posted by Oldrat Oldrat wrote:

And don’t forget that any Goretex lined glove will leak if you use heated grips, the heat changes the fabric pore size allowing water molecules in.
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Originally posted by Oldrat Oldrat wrote:

And don’t forget that any Goretex lined glove will leak if you use heated grips, the heat changes the fabric pore size allowing water molecules in.

I didn't know that either....very handy info....lol  (best I could do...)
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

Unfortunately price doesn't always mean quality.
 
Very true, have you seen the price of the new BMW bikes?
 
I have a YOKO jacket and trousers, which are great. I believe they were something to do with Yamaha at one point and they were/are made in Finland. I have had them over 10 years and they are still waterproof, except of course the outside pockets, which I believe is a problem with most Goretex gear.
 
They were a ridiculous price new, but like Jim Mac I bided my time and got a nearly new set on ebay.


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My replacement set will be Rukka.

The suit I want is an outrageous £1580 new BUT I know what size I need for Jacket and Trousers and I'm currently scouring the ads on Ebay and Gumtree for a used but almost new set.


There are plenty of Born again Bikers out there who have " All the Gear and Nee idea" and subsequently sell their new bike and gear at a knock down price when they realise it's not for them.


I'm confident that I will get exactly the almost new Rukka suit that I want for about £700 which although still a large outlay is for me worthwhile especially when touring abroad.
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Thanks for the comments so far, going to the local bike shop to look at options, including those suggested here.  The idea of buying a nearly new Rukka (or similar) may work. 
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I’ve done exactly what Tarquin is going to do regards Rukka and for the last 18 months have been very pleased with my Rukka jacket from eBay, just check your sizes at a store first.
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