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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ed.bremner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 2017 at 10:46
To be honest, I think it has always been like that in London, well central London anyway.   

I rode through my 20s (late 70s - early 80s) in central London and as a rule people didn't wave.  It was something I noticed once I got out of town.  TBH, you kept your hands on the bars and your eyes on the traffic...   an awful lot of hairy arsed couriers and white vans to avoid!

Riding is a bit less hectic these days in Cornwall.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jonesey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2017 at 18:52
Well, we'll keep doing what we do, and there's plenty of bikes on the road still, especially in the spring summer and autumn. I think the commuter only guys and people on certain makes are probably creating the impression things are going a little down hill camaraderie wise, but biking is so diverse now, maybe people who are relatively new to it tend to identify with others on similar bikes, and it doesn't occur to them that lots of us from way back grew up thinking of most bike riders as a sort of subculture, with the added benefit of being slightly dissed (perhaps even feared) by normal society.
Personally I'm glad we're now more mainstream, and many of us can afford better bikes and riding gear than when we were young. I'll always welcome and encourage any new riders, especially younger people, as there're enough barriers in their way to becoming full licence holding big bike owners as it is. I'm quite optimistic now that there seem to be more and more bikes under 400cc appearing, which must mean there are more people on their way into the population as it were, rather than going from scooters and 125s into cars
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jonesey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 18:43
Just a quick postscript to this......

I broke down in a terrible spot on the A10 (road, not Beezer) the other day, and 6 bikes and 2 cars pulled up or slowed down to see if I needed help in the space of an hour.....so that's encouraging

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I stopped last year for a young man pushing a 125 up the road, far from anywhere, he had run out of petrol, fixing was merely turning it onto reserve, he never knew that it had a reserve.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2017 at 08:50
Always nod wave etc.... about 75% returns
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2017 at 09:11
There are those who will always help if they can, there are those who never will, it's always been like that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blind Lemon Ade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2017 at 22:26
Back when I started riding in the 80's (?) there didn't seem to be much nodding or waving going on - mind, on the commute round the South Circular, we were all a bit busy...

Today, most riders nod to me; I even nod to learners and scooters, what with "modern" Jap bikes looking so scooterish these days.

Even some cool dudes on Harleys will nod; more likely than a big GS!

Is there some signal for "I've broken down"? Someone mentioned a lid on the ground; I've heard of a handkerchief tied to the handlebar, long ago... 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iceni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2017 at 22:42
These days I dare say that in certain areas, tying a handkerchief to the handlebar at the side of the road may have an entirely different meaning
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2017 at 21:58
Rode down back home from Doncaster today, not many acknowledgements from what I'm guessing are the "Sunday rider" brigade.

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A few weeks back I broke down on gsxr and had a L plate rider and triumph rider also caravan driver stop to help me . With gsxr being old school I was riding again within a hour. Around the Midlands area most bikers seem to nod when passing
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In the old & bold days there seemed to be fewer of us and it was more of an event to pass another biker. Then it was usually a cheery wave or a flash of the headlamp, more difficult on the fast paced congested roads of today. I do try to acknowledge all, from moped to cruiser but I don't always notice this 'sideways' nod that seems to be the fashion. I had a flat on a quiet Sunday morning and an l plate rider soon stopped to see if he could help. Circumstances permitting, I like to think I would stop to help if I could and I have done in the past.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyclobutch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2017 at 10:14
Yeah – back in the 70s/80s it seemed as though there was more acknowledgement. These days I rarely notice a nod from other riders, nor bother myself. Different out on mainland Europe mind, but then it is easier there what with driving on the other side of the road. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BobV7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2017 at 10:44
Back in the day I used to flash the lights until I realised how much it pissed off other road users! To be honest you need your wits about you on the road and getting distracted by feeling obliged to respond to a wave or nod may not be the safest mind set. As for stopping, in the old days you may have had a chance of helping out with a spanner, wire or bit of tape but those days are mainly passed. The best you can do is offer the use of a phone to call the breakdown van, but then the guy or gal probably has their own anyway. But I suppose just stopping even if you can't help shows a bit of human kindness towards your fellow riders.
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I had a tool kit with me but the triumph owner had the correct size Allen key without him stopping I would never of been able to make temp repair .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iceni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2017 at 12:52
Last week, at the end of a club night we all prepared to set off home. One of us had a problem, which several members observed. It was enlightening to see who just cleared off without showing an interest or getting involved, some of whom were long standing members. You find out who your mates are, don't you?
ps it was a Matchless that had the problem, not my Guzzi!
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