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    Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 19:06
These were the recommended go to rearsets for the LM2 when I asked the question on the Wildguzzi site last year. I persuaded my wife to buy them me for Xmas. I have to say, first impressions are that they are vastly overpriced. The powder coating does its best to hide the very average welding to the obviously jig built items. Even through the powder, most of the welded parts have been stamped out with no attempt at cleaning up with a file. The brake lever has 2 holes drilled in it to take the master cylinder rod shackle pin, Im guessing to give alternate braking leverage at the pedal. However these 2 holes are so close as to be separated by just a sliver of metal. The lever pivots also extend and become the forward of the 2 frame mounting bolts by the swing arm pivot. However they are M12 x 1.25mm and no nuts are provided. Ive mounted the pivots after buying the required nuts; the levers are then mounted onto these pivots and the footrests then screw onto the pivot mount ends. The problem here is the footrests either butt onto the levers and lock them solid, or become thread bound and leave the levers with lateral play on their pivot. There is also the question of footrest security which will probably be resolved with Loctite. Ive sorted the lateral play at the brake lever by making a shim to remove the play. Ive replaced the supplied ball joints with ptfe lined rose joints and intend to fit grease nipples to each lever. By the time Ive finished with them they should work perfectly.
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Well most certainly NOT a 5* recommendation not something I have ever done in many yrs but these seem awful
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Sounds very disapointing. I heard they were good and was considering buying some. Not so sure now.
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I looked at Agostini rearsets but went with the Tarozzi as they were IMO easier to modify (and cheaper) for a 1up/4 down shift but I do have Agostini exhaust header pipes with which I had a problem with the flange on the left pipe breaking off - first time I simply repaired it as the original welds were not up to much, I put it down to 'stuff happens' but it broke again shortly afterwards.

Upon further examination it was apparent that the angle of the bend in the pipe was not quite enough, putting the joint at the head under strain which then broke due to heat and vibes (in hindsight, I should have noticed with how awkward it was to align the silencers)  - in short, not particularly well made with very poor welds and wrong bend.

Funny how items with a good 'brand' often fall short of expectations, step forward Termignoni, long a big name in the Ducati world but the quality of weld and finish often disappoints.

With regards to Tarozzi rearsets, I have read on Guzzi forums how they break too easily in a drop/fall and this maybe true (fortunately not tested so far) but I find the finish to be very good, I also have Tarozzi clip-ons and these too appear to be very well made.      
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It is too late now but asking the same question across several Guzzi forums may have been more helpful and given more opinions to make a better informed choice. I like many assumed the Agostini stuff was of good quality but it may be the case that the rest is not so good either, although I did know that Termignoni weren`t all they`r cracked up to be. It seems some manufacturers are trading on past exploits without maintaining their current quality control, possibly down to number crunchers running their businesses and our obsession with `buying the right label`.
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Having asked the question, no one really had a bad thing to say about these rear sets. At the time I was not a member of this site, but the size of the Wild Guzzi forum is huge and its membership world wide; I had a fair number of replies. Their main advantage over others including the Tarozzis appears to be that the footrest position is as well as being further back, is not raised from the original footrest position. Luckily, as an engineer I can overcome the Ago's deficiencies, I'm just a little peeved at having to pay nearly £400 for them.
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You could expect better for that money.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 18:08
I really like mine ! They look right whereas any of the alternatives don't.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 21:01
Originally posted by I'm just a little peeved at having to pay nearly £400 for them.[/QUOTE I'm just a little peeved at having to pay nearly £400 for them.[/QUOTE wrote:

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You could have bought a few ironing  bo


You could have bought a few ironing  boards for that.
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Looking on the bright side you didn't get Tarozzis!  I have these on 2 bikes (in both cases they came with the bike - not my choice) and they are poor. They are brittle and do break easily, though fortunately a skilled welder can repair them.  

In addition when my Le Mans was having gear change trouble it was down to wear on the inside of the gear lever pivot.  This just rotates on the footrest, alloy to alloy. Naturally the wear is horrific. As this naturally came to a head  miles from home (actually at Le Mans) it needed a temporary repair. I made a shim from the plastic off a coke bottle and there was sufficient clearance for that to fit! Gearchange worked perfectly then.

I must sort it out properly one day!!!
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I made a shim from the plastic off a coke bottle and there was sufficient clearance for that to fit! Gearchange worked perfectly then.

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Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

Originally posted by I'm just a little peeved at having to pay nearly £400 for them.</td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>You could have bought a few ironing  boards for that.[/QUOTE I'm just a little peeved at having to pay nearly £400 for them.


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