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Hi all, 

Today I "mounted" my new soft bags and strolled around for one hours or so to test they stay in place and don't give any issues. 

They didn't. 

However, I seem to have vibrated away the orange cover part of the indicator light. 

1) Is it called indicator lens?

2) Is it legal to ride without the orange lens in place?   

3) I would love to find only the missing part. Gutsibits seems to have the parts for the front, not for the back. Stein Dinse seems to only sell LED parts. Any suggestion? Are there aother Guzzi models that used exactly the same, "click on" indicator lenses? 

I attach a picture of the culprit (you can see the new bags, too) so you can see exactly what I am talking about  

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Edited by Omobono - 14 Apr 2019 at 19:12
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You could risk being stopped by police if any saw the white light.
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Originally posted by red leader one red leader one wrote:

I don't think you can show a white light to the rear.
Unless reversing Wink
Get an orange bulb? 
Indicator lenses are available at Gutsibits 70mm overall diameter with 57mm fixings centres. (also 72mm and 82mm diameter lenses) It does not list them as SP1000 so check the size you require. Otherwise try Reboot spares 
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Before you go ordering a new orange thingy, you're going to want to check just what's happened: have the screws fallen out (if so you'll need a couple of them, right?) or has the lens broken leaving the retaining screws in the light housing?

I'd be inclined to whip the lens cover off the left hand rear side and look closely to see what you have, what you need, what can be replaced and what might be in need of repair. 

Also, be aware that there is an UP and DOWN involved with the orange indicator (a small slot in the lower edge lets water out - or IN if you fit them wrong!)

You're also going to want to be sure just what flashers you have fitted to which model before you go ordering a lens (or whatever).  These are parts which commonly get swapped for 'somethingihadontheshelf' by Previously Owners, so you may not necessarily have fitted the unit which is in the parts book.

Having said all that, once you know what you have and what you need, replacement lenses are readily available and not the hardest thing in the world to fit. Assuming that you have the right screwdriver (o;
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Many thanks to all!
 
Culpably I have not scrutinised closely yesterday and now I have the doubt, but my understanding is that there are no screws and the lens simply "clicks in". In fact, I have it on the back of my memory (unless it is the age) that once a couple of years ago the thing was about to leave me and I simply "clicked" it in place. The photo seems to confirm this, as it seems to me that it has several little "dents" (instead of screw females) meant to hold the lens in place. The other side has, unless I have been really careless in looking, no visible screws.
 
I thought I had the original lenses, but I have now found the rear lenses listed as original for SP1000 on Gutsibits and they are different (square, actually). Does the substitution work only include screwing the old indicator out and the new in, or does one have to cut wires and such stuff?
 
Does anyone know which model might have had the "click in" lenses? Or might it never have been an original Guzzi part at all?
 
Thanks again to all
 
 
 
 


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No never seen that type before.
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Thanks Mike H, 

OK so let us go in "Plan B" mode. 

I have asked Reboots, Gutsibits and Stein Dinse whether they can help. If they cannot (which at this point is likely) I have two ways in front of me: 

1) new set of original indicators, left and right, for the 1000SP. Are they easy to mount? Do I have to deal with electric cables or is it just "unscrew this one and screw that one in"? Again, my ignorance shows... 

2) New set of LED indicators hopefully meant to last forever. But they need to be of a "classic" sort rather than the minuscule affairs I see marketed around. I'd like for the indicators to be "visible", a part of the optics, with a "classic" appearance (round or rectangular). 

Ideas? 

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I doubt it will just be an unscrew and screw on operation. You will have to swap or join the wires from the loom to the indicators, the wires maybe just push fit. The mounting will depend on what you have and what you get, but should not be too complex.

LED indicators are good but you will either have to fit resistors so that they do not flash really quickly, or change the flasher unit as well all 4 indicators so that the flasher unit matches all of the lamps, or fit self-ballasted bulbs to the rear so the do not need additional resistors.
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Thanks Chris! The LEDs add too much to the operation, I think I will stay with traditional indicators. I will see what I find around but LED is dead ;) 

Thanks again 

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So, I have made a decision and I have ordered LIA28645 from gutsibits. These are the original indicators for the SP1000. The description states "note that this does not include wires (use your existing wires)". However, not sure how much it helps as I probably do not have the original wires.
 
I'll wait for the stuff to arrive and take it from there.
 
In what I think is a bit of good news, it would appear that it is still legal to indicate the turn with the arm...
 
 
If the police stops me I will say that I have been indicating with the right arm like there is no tomorrow...   
 
 
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Yes you can indicate with your arms, but for an MOT if the indicators are fitted they must work. As was originally said you can't show a white light on the back. Tape some orange cellophane over the indicator until you get the new ones Big smile
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If you go to a pace like Halfords, you can buy coloured clear repair film for repairing indicator lenses. Get the orange version and stick it over the indicator where the lens used to be. That way, at least until you can get a better repair done, you can ride legally.
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Originally posted by Chris950s Chris950s wrote:

Tape some orange cellophane over the indicator until you get the new onesĀ Big smile


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The old ones eh? Big smile
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