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    Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 16:55
Hi everyone.

I ordered a Kaoko Cruise control for my Norge but the one I received is marked For Norge 4v GT 2014 onwards. 

The fitting instructions for it says to remove the anti-vibe weight on the bar end then remove the hex plug (into which goes the long bolt to secure the weight) by unscrewing it. The Cruise Control then screws into the place vacated by the hex plug (just a plug threaded on the outside with flats for a spanner and a threaded hole in the middle for the weight securing bolt).

I took my bar-end weight off and there is no hex plug, just a plug with a threaded hole for the said weight securing bolt, so it confirms I have received the wrong Cruise Control for my bike.

OK, changing/returning won't be a problem but the question I have is:

Are the mounts/plugs for the bar end weights on a 2007 Norge removable and if so, how.
It has the appearance that it is screwed in and if I could get it out maybe this Cruise Control would suit.

Has anyone has fitted a Cruise Control Kaoko to a Norge 1200 2007 or pre-2014.

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Welded in AFAIK.
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yeah, thought it may be thus.
Thanks Brian ;-)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wotbus@ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 18:42
OK, went to the manufacturer's site - searched model number for a 2006/7 Norge 1200.
Anyone else interested the reference number is GUZ105 and is available from Sportouring Ltd UK for £107.99.
Having seen the quality of the wrong one I must send back I ordered from Sportouring straight away.
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Bit of a long haul coming up in a couple of weeks, North to South France and back again, and the auto-route cruising plays hell with my throttle hand (arthritis).
Dry roads everyone - if we're allowed out...
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I use one of those plastic thingys that clips round the twistgrip and you rest your wrist on it.
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Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

I use one of those plastic thingys that clips round the twistgrip and you rest your wrist on it.

Plastic thingy? Would love a bit more info on the "thingy" if it is an alternative to a throttle lock or the like!
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Exactly.
This link is better.

Probably a tad cheaper too.



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I have the plastic thingy Brian but it doesn't serve my needs anymore as I have to remove my hand from the throttle to exercise my wrist and fingers, clench/unclench etc and then rest a bit on tank bag or thigh.
I didn’t find it all that good; never seemed to be in the right place relative to speed and having to roll the throttle off to adjust it. I found just resting my wrist on the throttle at the required speed worked better. Different categories altogether although granted, much cheaper.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 11:10
Hmm. $800 for that kit plus $124 for the servo, plus carriage from USA plus any import duty and TVA in France.

A straightforward mechanical throttle lock would be a better bet.

I know some in the US have fitted the electric fly by wire systems.
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 Yes Brian, I thought comment about the price was inevitable when I posted it.
The obvious advantage of a 'proper' cruise control is that it keeps the bike at the set speed whatever the incline of the road. I have a plastic thing -


- on my soon-to-be-sold Triumph 800xc. I was considering the MC Cruise set up, but couldn't justify the money on something I would rarely use. The plastic thing is o.k. ish, it allows me to stretch my fingers when cramp sets in, but it needs practice when setting a speed; not good in heavy traffic because it interrupts one's concentration.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TooJuicy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 07:55
On the topic of general throttle comfort, I fitted bigger grips. I doubt they'll answer for arthritis but on long rides in Europe I found the wider grips banished hand cramps.



I found these stick-on grips never fully stuck in place and slowly migrate around the factory grip, but I like them enough to have left them in place for a few years now. 

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Originally posted by OldJohnboy OldJohnboy wrote:

 The plastic thing is o.k. ish, it allows me to stretch my fingers when cramp sets in, but it needs practice when setting a speed; not good in heavy traffic because it interrupts one's concentration.

I have CC in the car, but would never use it in heavy traffic. Perfect for French Autoroutes when they are almost deserted.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldJohnboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 12:17
Smile I have never driven anything with cruise control fitted, but I take your point Brian.
However, as I understand it, the MC Cruise gadget can be set as low as 30mph. It's on longer trips, with average speed cameras, that I experience severe, and quite painful, hand cramps. A couple of button presses must surely be easier than faffing (I'm world class at that, apparently Stern Smile) around with the plastic thing.
Anyway, as ever, it's good to air opinions and exchange differing views and experiences.
I'll stop there, as I'm developing finger cramp from all the typing! Smile
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